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Old 04-20-2024, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
The number of guys who have 1,000 TPIC and want to come here is no longer a large grouping. My guess is that a bachelors degree is no longer a significant advantage, since many of those guys are going or already have gone legacy. If you meet our minimums on the last application you are sitting pretty. A chunk of your competitors are already at a legacy and won’t leave, a chunk have legacy CJOs, and the small remnant is your competitor. If you have a 1,000 TPIC and you couldn’t be bothered to submit an application, well enjoy life where you are at.
I will be curious to see how many of the 300 hires will get a new type rating and bounce for the legacies. That’s what will be telling.
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Old 04-20-2024, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBear
I will be curious to see how many of the 300 hires will get a new type rating and bounce for the legacies. That’s what will be telling.
Anyone qualified to get the job at UPS would be qualified to get hired at a legacy. I'm not sure how a single type rating would make a difference for those candidates.
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Old 04-20-2024, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBear
I will be curious to see how many of the 300 hires will get a new type rating and bounce for the legacies. That’s what will be telling.
UPS a stepping stone?The people that left it’s usually quality of life issues, commuting comes to mind. During Covid it was the other way arround. The great thing about ••• is they have hiring standards like 1000 TPIC and only hire the people that truly want to be here. Because that first year pay isn’t easy.
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Old 04-21-2024, 01:18 AM
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...Because that first year pay isn’t easy.
Yeah, is it still 92$ / hour? Commuting to ANC ...
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Old 04-21-2024, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by zeruela
Yeah, is it still 92$ / hour? Commuting to ANC ...
is this a serious question or are you just trolling?
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Old 04-21-2024, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by zeruela
Yeah, is it still 92$ / hour? Commuting to ANC ...
It’s $56 and that’s exactly what UPS thinks you’re worth.
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Old 04-21-2024, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mandrake
It’s $56 and that’s exactly what UPS thinks you’re worth.
And no 401k match.
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Old 04-21-2024, 06:00 AM
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I can attest to this. I know of 6 pilots that had to deal with first year pay and commuting to ANC.
a handful of people had to get loans to survive first year.
I for one saved up and was able to cruise just fine.

The 6 pilots I knew all wanted to be at here and did not want to leave. However, with the broken up schedules, , reserves and lines being cut up as they are, it created issues with QOL. Having just 3-4 days off between trips and commuting to the east coast isint easy. Most of them would prefer to sit in their crash pads and try to find filler trips to at least justify staying in ANC.
eventually the succumb to the pressure of family and the helplessness of being in a crash pad and they look for other jobs.
to each their own, this was my dream job and I did what it took to accommodate to it. Everyone’s circumstance is different. But I believe as long as the schedules remain as bad as they are, attrition will be a normal part of this company.
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Old 04-21-2024, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve3112
is this a serious question or are you just trolling?
Sorry, yeah, it was a serious question. I am guessing it is not even that, it is actually $53/h

If you work there, can you confirm the first year pay?
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Old 04-21-2024, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Brownose74
I can attest to this. I know of 6 pilots that had to deal with first year pay and commuting to ANC.
a handful of people had to get loans to survive first year.
I for one saved up and was able to cruise just fine.

The 6 pilots I knew all wanted to be at here and did not want to leave. However, with the broken up schedules, , reserves and lines being cut up as they are, it created issues with QOL. Having just 3-4 days off between trips and commuting to the east coast isint easy. Most of them would prefer to sit in their crash pads and try to find filler trips to at least justify staying in ANC.
eventually the succumb to the pressure of family and the helplessness of being in a crash pad and they look for other jobs.
to each their own, this was my dream job and I did what it took to accommodate to it. Everyone’s circumstance is different. But I believe as long as the schedules remain as bad as they are, attrition will be a normal part of this company.
That's a story that people often ignore when applying to UPS. True that making 53/h to fly a 747 is not easy, on top of it, try to find a commute to ANC.


Do you have an attrition number? Maybe broken down by year on property?
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