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Old 01-20-2024, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CL300
To add to the above- 23 more 767s scheduled to be delivered in the next three years. 1994 was the biggest hiring year ever for UPS. With 30 years of service, those people will be retiring as well in the next year or two. Things won’t come to a standstill. It’s not Covid hiring, but the world isn’t ending. At least we aren’t in the same position as our Purple competitor.
Actually 1988 was the biggest year, followed by 2022. Then 1994, 2021, 2017, in that order. But I concur with your overall sentiment. Lots of new airframes coming, only parking the MDs that "engine out"
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Old 01-20-2024, 03:07 PM
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Actually 1988 was the biggest year, followed by 2022. Then 1994, 2021, 2017, in that order. But I concur with your overall sentiment. Lots of new airframes coming, only parking the MDs that "engine out"
How many in 2022 were hired to replace the then-age-30 year olds hired in 1988? They all turned 65 in 2022-ish
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Old 01-20-2024, 03:58 PM
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How many in 2022 were hired to replace the then-age-30 year olds hired in 1988? They all turned 65 in 2022-ish
2022 hiring was almost all growth
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Old 01-21-2024, 05:25 AM
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https://cargofacts.com/allposts/expr...el=lcp-8087265

Two more 747-8Fs - slightly used. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall seeing this mentioned before.
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Old 01-21-2024, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by fightandflight
https://cargofacts.com/allposts/expr...el=lcp-8087265

Two more 747-8Fs - slightly used. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall seeing this mentioned before.
Those two additional Ochos have been shown as 'on order' since the Q4'22 Financial Statement (Aircraft Fleet Schedule is the very last tab on the Excel file), and were 'under option' starting with the Q2'22 Financial Statement.

https://investors.ups.com/quarterly-...ancial-results
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Old 01-21-2024, 05:48 AM
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Thanks! I wonder where they are coming from. Does it say? Doesn't matter, I'm just hoping they truly make it "standard," and not like the 76 with 100 differences between them.
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Old 01-21-2024, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by C2078
This. Sky isn’t falling. Next two years plane count is a net zero. Don’t expect many upgrades, lots of lateral movement, very few forced downgrades.
That may or may not be true. There are many senior FOs bypassing that could affect re-alignment/displacement bids. If enough bid on the vacancies, there will be forced downgrades as MD captains get displaced.
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Old 01-21-2024, 03:38 PM
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Several 757's being parked, heard up to 10 this year. No more DFW sort and PHL sort has been cut in half, which were both served mostly by the 75. Guess we will see.
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Old 01-21-2024, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
That may or may not be true. There are many senior FOs bypassing that could affect re-alignment/displacement bids. If enough bid on the vacancies, there will be forced downgrades as MD captains get displaced.
We actually have way less people bypassing here than anywhere else by far (% wise)!! There is a reason upgrade is going around 55-60% vs 90%+ at the Legacies. This means people care less about QOL and want the $$$. Heck, United has basically new hire Captains, and the recent bids have shown not much difference than after new CBA.
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Originally Posted by C2078
There is a reason upgrade is going around 55-60% vs 90%+ at the Legacies.
Inability to easily downgrade is one of those reasons.
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