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Old 02-13-2017, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
You are playing the ALPA code of ethics card on a public forum? See these violated on almost every forum regularly. Especially around contract time:


He will do all within his powers to operate his aircraft efficiently and on schedule in a manner that will not cause damage or unnecessary maintenance.
He will respect the officers, directors, and supervisors of his airline, remembering that respect does not entail subservience.
He will faithfully obey all lawful directives given by his supervisors, but will insist and, if necessary, refuse to obey any directives that, in his considered judgment, are not lawful or will adversely affect flight safety. He will remember that in the final analysis the responsibility for safe completion of the flight rests upon his shoulders.
He will not knowingly falsify any log or record, nor will he condone such action by other crew members.
He will remember that a full month’s salary demands a full and fair month’s work. On his days off, he will not engage in any occupation or activity that will diminish his efficiency or bring discredit to his profession.
He will realize that he represents the airline to all who meet him and will at all times keep his personal appearance and conduct above reproach.
He will give his airline, its officers, directors, and supervisors the full loyalty that is their due, and will refrain from speaking ill of them. If he feels it necessary to reveal and correct conditions that are not conducive to safe operations and harmonious relations, he will direct his criticism to the proper authorities within ALPA.
He will hold his airline’s business secrets in confidence, and will take care that they are not improperly revealed.


As it pertains to this incident perhaps the pilot in question violated these ethics herself.....

He will be a good citizen of his country, state, and community, taking an active part in their affairs, especially those dealing with the improvement of aviation facilities and the enhancement of air safety.
He will conduct all his affairs in a manner that reflects credit on himself and his profession.
He will remember that to his neighbors, friends, and acquaintances he represents both the profession and ALPA, and that his actions represent to them the conduct and character of all members of the profession and ALPA.
He will realize that nothing more certainly fosters prejudices against and deprives the profession of its high public esteem and confidence than do breaches in the use of alcohol.
He will not publish articles, give interviews, or permit his name to be used in any manner likely to bring discredit to another pilot, the airline industry, the profession, or ALPA.
He will continue to keep abreast of aviation developments so that his skill and judgment, which heavily depend on such knowledge, may be of the highest order.

He will not publish articles, give interviews, or permit his name to be used in any manner likely to bring discredit to another pilot, the airline industry, the profession, or ALPA.

Whatever .. you want to talk trash about a fellow pilot that might be having a life crisis, go ahead. As I said before, it's immature at best. Have fun.
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Old 02-13-2017, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
None yet. I'll say no more.
What about the regional kid who was doing traffic stops as an FFDO? I know that's a one off, but certainly fits the profile.
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Old 02-13-2017, 06:22 PM
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On what grounds have the two prior threads about this incident been shut down on? Can one of the hypersensitive moderators on this forum please answer that?

Personally, I'm just a tad outraged about how she made my (our) profession look in the pax's eyes. Showing up to your aircraft in a ^*+#ing baseball cap and flip flops and then continuing to further embarrass yourself and your crew with psycho babble on the PA in front of everyone?! YHGTBFSM. What possible good excuse or justification is there for this?!

We all have bad days, but it's up to us individually to pull the plug on reporting for duty if we're not fit for it. Above all the public expects us to be sane and grounded mentally. Sad to say, but she has no business getting back in that cockpit......ever.
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Old 02-13-2017, 06:33 PM
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That video was sad... she should have not selected that box on our iPads for FFD and seeked some much needed help. It's my guess she will not fly again for United... any case I'm sure she is now sorry for showing up for that flight.
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Old 02-13-2017, 06:40 PM
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I sincerely hope that many of you never have to deal with a family member that has developed a mental illness. It's heartbreaking and NOTHING is cut and dry.
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Old 02-13-2017, 07:52 PM
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I can now honestly say that from what I'm reading on this forum I'm ashamed to be a United pilot.
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
I can now honestly say that from what I'm reading on this forum I'm ashamed to be a United pilot.
It's an easy fix to that: resign.
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DaBest
It's an easy fix to that: resign.
No, I think I can better represent what it means to be a United pilot by flying the line. You folks enjoy your egos, I know best, and it would never happen to me attitudes.

My fraternal best to the pilot in need.
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DaBest
Yep, I know what you mean; just like billions of people around the world attending churches, synagogs, and mosques; worshipping and believing in an invisible Almighty! Yes, I see your point, there is no cure for craziness and mass delusion.
I guess there are more crazy aviators out there that believe in angels, take into skies in 430 ton aircraft and don't believe in science.

"Colton Burpo"
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DaBest
It's an easy fix to that: resign.
Nah you can get lost flame. I'd put it far rougher but mods will ban that language. Speaking of Mods, you locked the other thread in Safety on this subject. Why not this one?
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