ShyGuy

The docs in Europe didn't certify him. They gave him paperwork for grounding purposes. The system there relies on the pilot to self-disclose their paperwork and remove themselves from flying status. The Germanwings FO of course did not.


Why? What TOS does it break to mention this incident?

baseball

Did I miss something?

Did someone have a public temper tantrum or something?

baseball

I see. I saw the picture of a female captain in a baseball cap and flip flops at Austin airport. I guess that's what it was.

SpecialTracking

This thread does no good. Literally. It should be closed and pulled.

awax

A United Airlines pilot was reportedly removed from the aircraft while on duty. You think pulling the discussion from this venue is going to put that genie back in the bottle?

Classic! Don't talk about & it'll go away!

SpecialTracking

No it won't. It won't make it any better and could make it worse for those involved.

rp2pilot

Can't agree more with you. Not discussing something in a public forum isn't the same as just ignoring it. Professionalism doesn't just mean conducting yourself while on duty; rather, it means not engaging in behavior that is unbecoming. Gossiping and the like about a fellow ALPA member on a public forum is immature at best, and probably violates some ALPA ethics code.

oldmako

None yet. I'll say no more.

Lambourne

You are playing the ALPA code of ethics card on a public forum? See these violated on almost every forum regularly. Especially around contract time:


He will do all within his powers to operate his aircraft efficiently and on schedule in a manner that will not cause damage or unnecessary maintenance.
He will respect the officers, directors, and supervisors of his airline, remembering that respect does not entail subservience.
He will faithfully obey all lawful directives given by his supervisors, but will insist and, if necessary, refuse to obey any directives that, in his considered judgment, are not lawful or will adversely affect flight safety. He will remember that in the final analysis the responsibility for safe completion of the flight rests upon his shoulders.
He will not knowingly falsify any log or record, nor will he condone such action by other crew members.
He will remember that a full month’s salary demands a full and fair month’s work. On his days off, he will not engage in any occupation or activity that will diminish his efficiency or bring discredit to his profession.
He will realize that he represents the airline to all who meet him and will at all times keep his personal appearance and conduct above reproach.
He will give his airline, its officers, directors, and supervisors the full loyalty that is their due, and will refrain from speaking ill of them. If he feels it necessary to reveal and correct conditions that are not conducive to safe operations and harmonious relations, he will direct his criticism to the proper authorities within ALPA.
He will hold his airline’s business secrets in confidence, and will take care that they are not improperly revealed.


As it pertains to this incident perhaps the pilot in question violated these ethics herself.....

He will be a good citizen of his country, state, and community, taking an active part in their affairs, especially those dealing with the improvement of aviation facilities and the enhancement of air safety.
He will conduct all his affairs in a manner that reflects credit on himself and his profession.
He will remember that to his neighbors, friends, and acquaintances he represents both the profession and ALPA, and that his actions represent to them the conduct and character of all members of the profession and ALPA.
He will realize that nothing more certainly fosters prejudices against and deprives the profession of its high public esteem and confidence than do breaches in the use of alcohol.
He will not publish articles, give interviews, or permit his name to be used in any manner likely to bring discredit to another pilot, the airline industry, the profession, or ALPA.
He will continue to keep abreast of aviation developments so that his skill and judgment, which heavily depend on such knowledge, may be of the highest order.

DaBest

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