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Old 01-31-2017, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
To clarify this further, the limit for employees is multipart:
(1) $18K ($24K for 50+) into Pre-Tax or Roth 401k.

Once (1) is filled, you can:
(2) Contribute Post-Tax up to the $60K maximum. However, you have to subtract (1) [$18k/$24k] and employer 16% contributions.

Once there is a total of $60K deposited into your 401k for the year ($60K is the 415c1 limit), all further employer 16% contributions 'spill' over into your RHA VEBA.



To illustrate with my 2016 contributions (limit was $59K; 2017 limit is $60K), my 401k was funded:
(1) $24K Pre-Tax (I could have chosen Roth),
(2) $20,800 Post-Tax (rounded for simplicity)
(3) $14,200.00 employer 16% (rounded for simplicity)
After reaching $59K, all of my employer contributions spilled into my RHA VEBA


Outside of the Profit Sharing check, you can elect to fund your 401k through the Schwab PRAP page: https://www.schwabplan.com/Net2/cmsp...PRAPlogin.html


I hope this didn't muddy the waters.
One note for the under 50 crowd, the 415c1 contributions for 2017 is $54,000 (total of up to $18k you can contribute + the companies 16%).

Hey Andy, in your example the $20,800 + $14,200 is the companies 16%, is that correct? Is there some limit on post tax money I can contribute? I thought I had ALL of my contributions set up as a Roth 401k, all post tax. Just curious why you have it split? I realize there are advantages to both pre and post tax contributions.
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AV82SKI
One note for the under 50 crowd, the 415c1 contributions for 2017 is $54,000 (total of up to $18k you can contribute + the companies 16%).

Hey Andy, in your example the $20,800 + $14,200 is the companies 16%, is that correct? Is there some limit on post tax money I can contribute? I thought I had ALL of my contributions set up as a Roth 401k, all post tax. Just curious why you have it split? I realize there are advantages to both pre and post tax contributions.
Thanks for the correction; I don't think about <50 anymore.

I'm going to break this off and start a new thread titled Schwab PRAP due to the thread drift.
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Old 02-21-2017, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
If you put 100% into your 401k Pretax, about 90% of your profit sharing amount will go into your 401k. That's close enough for .gov work. Please post the amount you had go into your 401k after it's deposited for future reference.
PS checks finally posted. I made a 100% contribution to the 401k but after Fed/California taxes and ALPA dues, only 86.6% of it made it into the account.
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Originally Posted by Winston
PS checks finally posted. I made a 100% contribution to the 401k but after Fed/California taxes and ALPA dues, only 86.6% of it made it into the account.
So.....the statement posted almost a week early and you paid less than 15% in tax and dues. Whiner.
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So.....the statement posted almost a week early and you paid less than 15% in tax and dues. Whiner.
So we can't even complain about taxes now?
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So we can't even complain about taxes now?
Most lump sum payments are taxed at 30%, half that means more money in your pocket. But by all means, complain away.
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Originally Posted by awax
Most lump sum payments are taxed at 30%, half that means more money in your pocket. But by all means, complain away.
I know what it is taxed at, but why give someone $h!/ for complaining about paying taxes. I'm editing my post. I don't want to come across as hostile.
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Originally Posted by jdt30
I know what it is taxed at, but why give someone $h!/ for complaining about paying taxes. For someone that has been based in the OK, you've lost the laid back feeling.
The PS statement posted a week early and they apparently withheld at a tax rate that's half of the historical norm - and we complain.

Nobody's paying taxes at this point, it's only withholding. I was happy to find that I'm only loaning 50% of what I expected on a forced 15-month interest free loan to the Feds.
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Originally Posted by awax
So.....the statement posted almost a week early and you paid less than 15% in tax and dues. Whiner.
I wasn't whining. As his quote indicated, I was responding to Andy's request to post actual percentage withheld once the checks came out.
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