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To clarify this further, the limit for employees is multipart:
(1) $18K ($24K for 50+) into Pre-Tax or Roth 401k.
Once (1) is filled, you can:
(2) Contribute Post-Tax up to the $60K maximum. However, you have to subtract (1) [$18k/$24k] and employer 16% contributions.
Once there is a total of $60K deposited into your 401k for the year ($60K is the 415c1 limit), all further employer 16% contributions 'spill' over into your RHA VEBA.
To illustrate with my 2016 contributions (limit was $59K; 2017 limit is $60K), my 401k was funded:
(1) $24K Pre-Tax (I could have chosen Roth),
(2) $20,800 Post-Tax (rounded for simplicity)
(3) $14,200.00 employer 16% (rounded for simplicity)
After reaching $59K, all of my employer contributions spilled into my RHA VEBA
Outside of the Profit Sharing check, you can elect to fund your 401k through the Schwab PRAP page: https://www.schwabplan.com/Net2/cmsp...PRAPlogin.html
I hope this didn't muddy the waters.
(1) $18K ($24K for 50+) into Pre-Tax or Roth 401k.
Once (1) is filled, you can:
(2) Contribute Post-Tax up to the $60K maximum. However, you have to subtract (1) [$18k/$24k] and employer 16% contributions.
Once there is a total of $60K deposited into your 401k for the year ($60K is the 415c1 limit), all further employer 16% contributions 'spill' over into your RHA VEBA.
To illustrate with my 2016 contributions (limit was $59K; 2017 limit is $60K), my 401k was funded:
(1) $24K Pre-Tax (I could have chosen Roth),
(2) $20,800 Post-Tax (rounded for simplicity)
(3) $14,200.00 employer 16% (rounded for simplicity)
After reaching $59K, all of my employer contributions spilled into my RHA VEBA
Outside of the Profit Sharing check, you can elect to fund your 401k through the Schwab PRAP page: https://www.schwabplan.com/Net2/cmsp...PRAPlogin.html
I hope this didn't muddy the waters.
Hey Andy, in your example the $20,800 + $14,200 is the companies 16%, is that correct? Is there some limit on post tax money I can contribute? I thought I had ALL of my contributions set up as a Roth 401k, all post tax. Just curious why you have it split? I realize there are advantages to both pre and post tax contributions.
#42
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
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One note for the under 50 crowd, the 415c1 contributions for 2017 is $54,000 (total of up to $18k you can contribute + the companies 16%).
Hey Andy, in your example the $20,800 + $14,200 is the companies 16%, is that correct? Is there some limit on post tax money I can contribute? I thought I had ALL of my contributions set up as a Roth 401k, all post tax. Just curious why you have it split? I realize there are advantages to both pre and post tax contributions.
Hey Andy, in your example the $20,800 + $14,200 is the companies 16%, is that correct? Is there some limit on post tax money I can contribute? I thought I had ALL of my contributions set up as a Roth 401k, all post tax. Just curious why you have it split? I realize there are advantages to both pre and post tax contributions.
I'm going to break this off and start a new thread titled Schwab PRAP due to the thread drift.
#43
PS checks finally posted. I made a 100% contribution to the 401k but after Fed/California taxes and ALPA dues, only 86.6% of it made it into the account.
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#49
Nobody's paying taxes at this point, it's only withholding. I was happy to find that I'm only loaning 50% of what I expected on a forced 15-month interest free loan to the Feds.
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