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Old 11-22-2016, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 82spukram
The oldest 737 and 320 will be 30 years old in the next 5 years....why not replace them with a more efficient technology.
Not a big deal, but our oldest 737s aren't 20 yet.
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:19 AM
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Sorry posted that at the end of a long day. You are correct.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-30/united-reviews-12-4-billion-airbus-jet-order-in-fleet-revamp?cmpid=yhoo.headline

Well, here's some new factual information. Discuss...
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Originally Posted by Fresh
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-30/united-reviews-12-4-billion-airbus-jet-order-in-fleet-revamp?cmpid=yhoo.headline

Well, here's some new factual information. Discuss...
I lost track, what verse of the same old "if labor weren't so expensive, we could buy new jets..." song are we on?
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Fresh
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-30/united-reviews-12-4-billion-airbus-jet-order-in-fleet-revamp?cmpid=yhoo.headline

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It appears the long term planning committee recently held their latest bi-weekly meeting.
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Originally Posted by Fresh
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-30/united-reviews-12-4-billion-airbus-jet-order-in-fleet-revamp?cmpid=yhoo.headline

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Maybe it's a negotiating tactic to get the 321neo, along with the 350.

Kirby supposedly loves the 321. The 321neo is outselling the 737max, which means later available delivery slots. The threat of a huge ($$$) cancellation, of both A350 and max10, may compel Airbus to give us a better package of A350's and 321neos with a better delivery schedule.
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Old 11-30-2016, 02:12 PM
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Maybe it's a negotiating tactic to get the 321neo, along with the 350.

Kirby supposedly loves the 321. The 321neo is outselling the 737max, which means later available delivery slots. The threat of a huge ($$$) cancellation, of both A350 and max10, may compel Airbus to give us a better package of A350's and 321neos with a better delivery schedule.
Good points. Also A350 failed ALPA's crew rest committee and it's not compliant with the contract. According to the rep I spoke to our language is strong and ALPA can prevent company from using on augmented flights. Rep said AA & DAL's language no where as strong as ours and they both will apply to FAA for waiver with their union's approval.

Even the company counterparts to ALPA's crew rest committee agrees A350 is non compliant per contract and 117.
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Old 11-30-2016, 03:23 PM
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Good points. Also A350 failed ALPA's crew rest committee and it's not compliant with the contract. According to the rep I spoke to our language is strong and ALPA can prevent company from using on augmented flights. Rep said AA & DAL's language no where as strong as ours and they both will apply to FAA for waiver with their union's approval.

Even the company counterparts to ALPA's crew rest committee agrees A350 is non compliant per contract and 117.
Where did you find this info? I can't find anything online. I spoke with someone who claimed secure flight deck access to both the overhead crew rest area and a dedicated pilot restroom. There WAS a sublevel crew rest area in initial development I could find. Interesting info if you have any more. (Remembering some of our 777s have no crew rest area !!!)
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Where did you find this info? I can't find anything online. I spoke with someone who claimed secure flight deck access to both the overhead crew rest area and a dedicated pilot restroom. There WAS a sublevel crew rest area in initial development I could find. Interesting info if you have any more. (Remembering some of our 777s have no crew rest area !!!)
Was told what I posted above by a MEC Rep a month or so ago. He stated it was from a crew rest committee MEC briefing in open session a few MEC meetings ago. (Crock I think is the committee official name). I believe he said it was due to the bunk size and overal lack of appropriate space in the crew bunk rest area. Unfortunately that's all the info I have.
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Was told what I posted above by a MEC Rep a month or so ago. He stated it was from a crew rest committee MEC briefing in open session a few MEC meetings ago. (Crock I think is the committee official name). I believe he said it was due to the bunk size and overal lack of appropriate space in the crew bunk rest area. Unfortunately that's all the info I have.
I smell a contract extension.
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