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09-06-2017, 06:42 AM
#352
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IF the 350s arrive in 2022 it will be 12 years from initial order to first delivery.
09-06-2017, 08:04 AM
#353
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Maybe I'm being Captain Obvious with this crowd, but the 350 was ordered pre-merger to replace the 747, which was gonna fly until 2022. Post-merger, the 747 retirement got moved up considerably. First to 2018, then to 2017. So the 777-300s, which were available on short notice, are now the replacement for the 747. Evidently they tried to get out of the 350 orders, but could not (engines?). So now the 350s will replace our 777-200ERs. That's the way I see it.
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09-06-2017, 09:06 AM
#354
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The increase from 35 350-1000s to 45 350-900s was certainly a surprise, although kicking the can down further the road was not. My guess is that the Kirbster approached it something like this: "We paid waaay too much for those -1000s, how about we get 45 -900s for the same amount? That would bring the price per aircraft down close to what AA paid for their -900s." Even if the 350s never make it on the property, it buys us quite a few years to wiggle out of the RR engine trap. Perhaps the increase in total engines bought us some flexibility with RR already.
09-06-2017, 02:26 PM
#357
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Maybe I'm being Captain Obvious with this crowd, but the 350 was ordered pre-merger to replace the 747, which was gonna fly until 2022. Post-merger, the 747 retirement got moved up considerably. First to 2018, then to 2017. So the 777-300s, which were available on short notice, are now the replacement for the 747. Evidently they tried to get out of the 350 orders, but could not (engines?). So now the 350s will replace our 777-200ERs. That's the way I see it.
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I didn't focus on this right away, but I think given the fact that United was "twisting in the wind" over an engine contract this seems to be a best of all worlds answer. Push the decision out as long as possible and hopefully an answer will appear in time. Meanwhile keep to the plan.
09-06-2017, 03:22 PM
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