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02-02-2017, 08:25 AM
#222
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
Posts: 269
This was actually mentioned to me by a union rep at my last airline right before I came to UAL. A total buy out with a staple where both ALPA groups agreed to the terms. Apparently this is possible with concurrence from both sides of labor. Who knows...
02-02-2017, 08:27 AM
#223
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Gear slinger
Posts: 2,961
Maybe there's hope for the folks at AWAC after all.
02-02-2017, 08:30 AM
#224
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: Seat 0A
Posts: 117
It has been this way for close to 20 years that I know of. Just guessing, but I think this was actually a shrewd legal/contract move on ALPA's part:
At UAL, jumpseaters were considered part of the ZFW of the airplane. It didn't make sense to me as a new-hire; I just thought "OK, that's how they do it."
But by designating the jumpseater as part of the crew, he becomes a non-removable part of the dispatch. This is true whether the J/Ser is UA, or another carrier.
It means if the flight gets weight-restricted, other stuff/people come off before the jumpseater does.
That's my interpretation. It helps commuters.
At UAL, jumpseaters were considered part of the ZFW of the airplane. It didn't make sense to me as a new-hire; I just thought "OK, that's how they do it."
But by designating the jumpseater as part of the crew, he becomes a non-removable part of the dispatch. This is true whether the J/Ser is UA, or another carrier.
It means if the flight gets weight-restricted, other stuff/people come off before the jumpseater does.
That's my interpretation. It helps commuters.
Only a UA pilot can't be removed from the jumpseat, not offline.
02-15-2017, 02:46 AM
#225
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: EWR 777 Captain
Posts: 1,715
Investor conference yesterday. Fleet outlook on pg 11. No change. Too bad 
http://ir.united.com/~/media/Files/U...ation-2017.pdf
http://ir.united.com/~/media/Files/U...ation-2017.pdf
02-15-2017, 05:49 AM
#227
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: 320 Captain
Posts: 655
A350-1000, 787-10 and Max 9 are all on the block to be delivered in 2018. When and how many are details yet released.
Last edited by C11DCA; 02-15-2017 at 05:59 AM.
02-15-2017, 05:54 AM
#228
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,599
In the past when this was attempted regionals have refused any pre nuptial agreements involving a staple.
02-16-2017, 08:14 AM
#230
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 941
13+5 = 15????? I gotta go back to school cause that aint the number I came up with.
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