Slop

Anyone have thoughts on how tearing up trade deals could affect job security in our line of work?

awax

UAL has more China flights than any other US airline and has substantial international operations. What could possibly go wrong with a disruption in global business travel?

Regularguy

Do you really think trump has that much power?

cadetdrivr

Best case: trade war with the ME3 and status quo everywhere else.

Worst case: trade war with the entire planet combined with passage of national "right to work" legislation (1) and the UPA is the last, best, contract that any current UA pilot sees. Ever.

Despite a looming industry 'pilot shortage' there is no shortage of folks willing to fly for UA for 75% of the current "total package."

(1) Note: "Right to Work" is part of the official 2016 Republican platform and something that Trump himself said he supported. Until about a week ago this was only a fantasy but now congress and the executive branch will be in alignment.

Probe

Trump just tweeted this morning at 3 am:

"Fear not, when I am king, your deaths shall be both swift, and painless."


Personally I HOPE we have a trade war with the ME3, and NAI. If we don't, they win.

dvhighdrive88

While your logic seems sound at at first look, dig deeper on who elected him. It wasn't white collar executives. The working class brought him in and they expect jobs. Attacking unions would be hugely un popular with his base. Yes I get the sociopathic Illuminati types hate unions but Trump while probably being like them doesn't owe them anything. He didn't take any pay for pay money unlike Clintons. He's unique in our history as being almost in tethered to donor money.

Now will he pull strings for his friends....maybe, likely but he'll have be careful what strings he pulls or he could find himself on the receiving end of an impeachment drive GLADLY backed by Democrats.

Trump xenophobia extends well into the Middle East. He's painted himself into the corner by being a champion of the working guy so crushing unions would be a hugely stupid move against his base. America is on edge and Trump could be easily turned against as he was elected. He doesn't have a lot of wiggle room if you really look at it.

dvhighdrive88

The pilot shortage bubble is already in the bloodstream and headed to the heart. That ship has sailed and the numbers are there and very real. They need to start training pilots for free like right now to get a wave in pipeline to stave the shortage ramp up in 2019. Or they better hope there a whole bunch of kids who want spend 200k to be a pilot like right now. Overseas supply coming here work for peanuts? Not likely. First where you gonna find them? Asia has a crazy deficit of pilots already. Second, security wise you got issues. Think Ma and Pa Kettle from Iowa like being flown by some unknown they pulled out of the backstreets of Delhi? Third, these inexperienced foreigners have huge cultural problems to over come before they can truly implement CRM and TEM and that ain't going happen overnight. So the foreigner supply dog don't hunt. Not yet at least.

Now age 67. Yeah I see Trump signing that in a second. After all he's 70 and still grabbing women by the...

XHooker

I disagree. "Right to Work" was part of the package and shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. I'd bet money it's coming in 2017 and I doubt he'd veto it. The only way I can see it not becoming national legislation is the Republican party figuring they didn't want to take the risk at the national level and just allow the current "Right to Work" states continue to syphon union jobs away from the rust belt.

XHooker

If it means they pay five dollars less each way, they'll have no problem with it.

baseball

Look at it a different way.

First define our current environment.


1. The ME3 are picking our pockets and their influence and dominance continues to grow thanks to the Government/Crown subsidies as well as sweat heart deals from Airbus.

2. All Chinese businesses continue to flourish due to 4 factors: our extreme debt to China and China's manipulation of our currency, as well as China's stealing of intellectual property and their ability to not only be competitive in manufacturing, but dominate the sector. (those manufacturing jobs used to be in America).

3. NAFTA continues to hurt the US and Canadian economy in terms of movement of goods as well as relocations and closing down of over 70,000 factories from the USA.

4. NAI type carriers will continue to pick up steam. Combine that with the airborne version of NAFTA, ie (open skies) and you can see big storm clouds coming.


So.........Which trade deals currently in place help the USA's economy? Which ones are beneficial to US jobs? Which one's help both our strategic influence as well as our economic influence?

Now that we've really looked at the lay of the land you can better scrutinize which trade treaties should be eliminated, or modified, and further what line-item changes would the various economists recommend?