4V14T0R

What doesn't make sense? If there were signs of a shortage, the majors would be hiring at such a clip that the regionals would be unable to keep up and the lowest tier regionals would have to get swallowed up or close their doors. Maybe we haven't gotten that far yet, but reference the rest of my post you quoted.


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bigfatdaddy

Can I disagree, so you can disagree with my disagree.

ReadyRsv

RE: Shortages. I just came from the regional world last year. When pilot pay was 20k first year with 5 years to make more than 50k there were still pilots showing up. It takes 18 months to train a regional pilot from 0 hours, IF, they are in a high intensity program. (750 hours from a 141 university program) So we will start seeing increased pilot starts providing labor supply shortly. Current first year pay is eclipsing 60k with guaranteed major airline interviews. As the news spreads of this now manageable career path we will have as many pilots as we need for a long time.

RE: Trump. Not a friend of organized labor, based upon his business dealings. He was elected on populist rhetoric supposing his support of 'the little guy' so we will see what that turns out as. Seeing how airline pilots (even regional FOs making 12 an hour ) have never really been considered the 'little' guy I don't see any actions which will help us coming out of his admin. Combine that with him stacking his cabinet with Republican holdovers from previous admins I see at best maintaining our status quo to a high negative downside. (Specifically, erosions of union power, cabotage, unlimited foreign control and alter-ego carriers being started by UAL, AA and DAL and a trade war with China)

Time will tell, I hope he does good for our country but I see basically nothing indicating he will help pilots specifically.

AxlF16

He can bring back most of the lost jobs....but the unions are being unreasonable and are the ones to blame for blocking him.

this ain't rocket science.

UASnake

Your defamatory remarks about Trump voters echo the hag's "deplorable, irredeemable" comments. Insulting half the country turned out to be a losing strategy for an un-indicted criminal who never gave voters any good reason to support her. And I hate to break it to you, but many of our fellow UA pilots also voted for our next President, Donald J. Trump. I usually make it a point not to discuss politics on a trip, but when it came up, every F/O I've talked about it with over the last year except one was a strong Trump supporter. Even a few Millennials (gasp!).


I'm willing to pay more for goods made here by legal U.S. CITIZENS instead of in offshore factories. If we're not willing to do that, why should we expect anybody else to help support our industry vs ME3 and NAI?

UASnake

You've used that racist, ageist phrase before. Do you also apply it to FDR? Bill Clinton? Joe Biden? Harry Reid?

Hmmm, which of these sounds do I like better?

saying "President Donald J. Trump"

or

Leftist/Socialist/Globalist heads exploding all over the world.


Hard to say, but the sight of all those liberal tears is invigorating!

Chuck D

Ugh, UAsnake can you find another place to vent/gloat. Aside from your or my feelings on the candidates, there are real policy aspects that will help or hurt the profession and UAL over the next 4 years.

We're "kind of a big deal" in China and Europe. Tarrifs and trade wars and taxation and protectionism can all help or hurt this company. I guess we'll all find out in few years when profit share does or does not roll in and upgrade opportunities occur or vanish.

AllenAllert

Didn't bring politics into except to point out that trump was 70+ chalky old man that will likely support changing the forced retirement age to 70 or remove the age cap all together. Nothing racist about my original post.

I guess you were offended about the "chalky" comment - well, that comes from his daily applied orange face. I know plenty of chalky old men that do ok without playing with their wife's makeup kit.

The names you mentioned are non-players at this point. The player you should be concerned about is trump himself. Hopefully he doesn't get us into a shooting war, tank the economy, massive borrowing to deliver job through infrastructure projects resulting in higher interest rates and inflation.

Do you really think trump will be calling the shots. The RNC picked Pence to be his VP and with trump in over his head he was basically allowed the RNC pick Reince Priebus his Chief of Staff. I don't know why they allowed trump to pick a KKK leader for his chief advisor. I guess keeping your head in the sand is a better for some - ugh?

SpecialTracking

Defamatory about Trump? No, he played his base like a fiddle and I'm afraid the Republican party is about to play him. 4% growth is a pipe dream. He's already starting to walk back the comments about jailing his opponent. The repeal and replacement of the ACA is turning into an adjustment of. This is only the beginning.

Jobs are not coming back because like it or not this is a global economy. For example, a car is assembled in Mexico with mostly US produced parts. If Donald puts a 40% tariff on the cars coming back into the US what happens to those parts producers?

The good thing we both want what's best for the country.

GogglesPisano

Contrary to the promises he made to dupe his followers, there is no way in hell the Republican appointees who will wind up pulling his strings (Pence being the biggest) or the Republican Congress and their country-club masters will allow him to roll back trade.

The factory jobs are not coming back.

The coal jobs are most certainly not coming back (and that has nothing to do with trade.)

Expect another populist in 4 years, and promises which simply can't be kept.