Trump & Job Security
11-12-2016, 06:33 AM
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11-12-2016, 07:02 AM
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Look at it a different way.
First define our current environment.
1. The ME3 are picking our pockets and their influence and dominance continues to grow thanks to the Government/Crown subsidies as well as sweat heart deals from Airbus.
2. All Chinese businesses continue to flourish due to 4 factors: our extreme debt to China and China's manipulation of our currency, as well as China's stealing of intellectual property and their ability to not only be competitive in manufacturing, but dominate the sector. (those manufacturing jobs used to be in America).
3. NAFTA continues to hurt the US and Canadian economy in terms of movement of goods as well as relocations and closing down of over 70,000 factories from the USA.
4. NAI type carriers will continue to pick up steam. Combine that with the airborne version of NAFTA, ie (open skies) and you can see big storm clouds coming.
So.........Which trade deals currently in place help the USA's economy? Which ones are beneficial to US jobs? Which one's help both our strategic influence as well as our economic influence?
Now that we've really looked at the lay of the land you can better scrutinize which trade treaties should be eliminated, or modified, and further what line-item changes would the various economists recommend?
First define our current environment.
1. The ME3 are picking our pockets and their influence and dominance continues to grow thanks to the Government/Crown subsidies as well as sweat heart deals from Airbus.
2. All Chinese businesses continue to flourish due to 4 factors: our extreme debt to China and China's manipulation of our currency, as well as China's stealing of intellectual property and their ability to not only be competitive in manufacturing, but dominate the sector. (those manufacturing jobs used to be in America).
3. NAFTA continues to hurt the US and Canadian economy in terms of movement of goods as well as relocations and closing down of over 70,000 factories from the USA.
4. NAI type carriers will continue to pick up steam. Combine that with the airborne version of NAFTA, ie (open skies) and you can see big storm clouds coming.
So.........Which trade deals currently in place help the USA's economy? Which ones are beneficial to US jobs? Which one's help both our strategic influence as well as our economic influence?
Now that we've really looked at the lay of the land you can better scrutinize which trade treaties should be eliminated, or modified, and further what line-item changes would the various economists recommend?
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/money/4564190/trump-trade-war-tariffs/%3Fsource%3Ddam?client=safari
United Airlines is FAR and away the largest US airline providing seats to China and has made it a key part of its overall business.
Do the math.
It will be interesting to see the reaction of the average, uneducated white person in middle America who voted Trump in when the cost of their iPhone goes to $1300 and we head into a major recession.
11-12-2016, 07:14 AM
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Trump said a lot of things to buy those ignorant, desperate, anti Hillary votes. Watch him walk back some of the promises he made. The phrases "he didn't say that" or "what he really meant was" will be common place going forward. What scares me are the hidden agendas of Steve Bannon's alt right with the blessing of Congress.
How are those high tariffs imposed by a debtor nation going to work? Not well.
How are those high tariffs imposed by a debtor nation going to work? Not well.
11-12-2016, 07:15 AM
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This change will bring devastation to labor and all working groups, airlines being just one of the smaller groups. Right to work, NAFTA, open skies--these are just the opening shots.
The indirect battle will be lost in the years ahead, not just during the Trump administration. Labor will be set back to the stone age in the courts. NLRB? Supreme court? Once the shift in court appointees takes place, all labor law and law suites become at risk. You thought we were powerless with the Railway Labor act as it stands now? Just wait and see how much bargaining power we have after Trump gets hold of it.
Pile all this on after the trade wars decimate traffic to Asia, and the change to 67 or 70, or lifted entirely. Get to a place you'll be happy, you may be there a while.
The indirect battle will be lost in the years ahead, not just during the Trump administration. Labor will be set back to the stone age in the courts. NLRB? Supreme court? Once the shift in court appointees takes place, all labor law and law suites become at risk. You thought we were powerless with the Railway Labor act as it stands now? Just wait and see how much bargaining power we have after Trump gets hold of it.
Pile all this on after the trade wars decimate traffic to Asia, and the change to 67 or 70, or lifted entirely. Get to a place you'll be happy, you may be there a while.
11-12-2016, 07:17 AM
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Thank goodness out union leaders backed Hillary.
11-12-2016, 07:56 AM
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It's part of the business... Look at how HRC changed her "entitlement promises" when Bernie started getting close... She would promise anything to get a Bernie vote and would then blame congress after election she couldn't deliver because of their actions. Don't kid yourself about HRC... She would have been no better than Trump WRT airline pilots and the industry as a whole.
11-12-2016, 08:16 AM
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I think this may be a mistaken impression. My feeling is that his base wants jobs. But they also hate unions. He and the GOP Congress can certainly sell that unions are 'job killers'.
Its to early to tell what Trump will bring. Even if he improves the economy overall, he may weaken labor. Or he could put up lots of trade barriers and travel restrictions, which would not be good for business travel or tourism. Or he could crash the entire economy.
11-12-2016, 08:32 AM
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You can see the writing on the wall how NAI and ME3 will be leveraged against US labor to extract concessions..."Unions have to agree to "x" or we open the US market to the world...". I'd be shocked to see ALPA even mention what SOS would look like until months after we actually need it.
11-12-2016, 05:09 PM
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You can see the writing on the wall how NAI and ME3 will be leveraged against US labor to extract concessions..."Unions have to agree to "x" or we open the US market to the world...". I'd be shocked to see ALPA even mention what SOS would look like until months after we actually need it.
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