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Old 11-12-2016, 03:19 PM
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Which means 90/10 real world in favor.
Only if you're Trump.
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Old 11-12-2016, 05:13 PM
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From the other forum a brief comment emanating from a council citing that there might be disagreement between ALPA and the company on the Delta snap up formula. Same as it ever was.
Is this the additive versus compounding issue?

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Our 3% 1/17 contractual raise added to the DAL 4.42% for a total of 7.42%,

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Our 3% 1/17 contractual raise compounded on the DAL 4.42% for a total of 7.55%,
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Old 12-05-2016, 09:35 PM
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Delta's pay is retroactive to Jan 1, 2016. Our match goes into effect Feb 1, 2017. Damn.
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Old 12-06-2016, 06:22 AM
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They're running a poll on APC/Delta. Last I checked it was 80% in favor.



68/32 right now.

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Dear Fellow Pilots,

This morning we voted by a margin of 82%, strongly ratifying Contract 2015, a record in Delta contract history.

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Looks like the 80% number I quoted wasn't too far off. Score one for APC.
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Old 12-06-2016, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fadec
Delta's pay is retroactive to Jan 1, 2016. Our match goes into effect Feb 1, 2017. Damn.
And our extension has been in effect for around (forget specific start date) that whole time, w/ rates that already encompass the majority of their gains.

It will be interesting to see if other "snap" clauses are put into contracts going forward.
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:03 AM
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Just curious, anyone from Delta--did you get a snap up clause?
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:30 AM
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Delta has a snap up clause, but it is very different than ours. There's only kicks in if the other employees get a raise. Then they look at ours and AAs 757 rate and then offset any differences in profit sharing payouts for the prior year.

This was in the old PWA but modified this time to include profit sharing.
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by fadec
Delta's pay is retroactive to Jan 1, 2016. Our match goes into effect Feb 1, 2017. Damn.
January 30, actually. The first day of the February 2017 bid month.
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Originally Posted by fadec
Delta's pay is retroactive to Jan 1, 2016. Our match goes into effect Feb 1, 2017. Damn.
That might be something worth grieving just for fun.
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Originally Posted by El10
Delta has a snap up clause, but it is very different than ours. There's only kicks in if the other employees get a raise. Then they look at ours and AAs 757 rate and then offset any differences in profit sharing payouts for the prior year.

This was in the old PWA but modified this time to include profit sharing.
Right. The UAL snap up is WAY better than ours.
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