Attire required for Jumpseat in the back
#21
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I'd reply "I wouldn't care if you were naked, as long as you're not a scab I'd let you jumpseat."
What I really don't understand is the belief that "slacks" are the only type of business casual. Designer jeans and a sport coat look just as nice or better than a guy (or gal) wearing uniform slacks and a $10 polo shirt.
What I really don't understand is the belief that "slacks" are the only type of business casual. Designer jeans and a sport coat look just as nice or better than a guy (or gal) wearing uniform slacks and a $10 polo shirt.
Boy, you showed them.....
As many others have said, nice jeans and a button down l with a sport coat look a lot better than a wrinkled pair of Dockers and a $10 ratty polo..if a guy/gal looks well put together, what does it matter? As long as you aren't a scab, you're good to go.
As many others have said, nice jeans and a button down l with a sport coat look a lot better than a wrinkled pair of Dockers and a $10 ratty polo..if a guy/gal looks well put together, what does it matter? As long as you aren't a scab, you're good to go.
And you have to field the comm from (insert airline here) that "a pilot from your airline tried to JS on us and the CA denied them. Please tell your pilot that we have a dress code required for JS and it doesn't include jeans, etc etc etc....."
As stated, why is it so hard to look like a profession when exercising the PROFESSIONAL COURTESY of using the privilege of the jump seat?
It wasn't about "showing them" ANYTHING. You ever seen/read what happens when an RJ pilot shows up on a legacy in jeans trying to JS? Usually, it doesn't go so well.......
Sadly, there's people that get it
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If you work at Google of Facebook, jeans are probably fine.
But since you work in the airline industry... which traditionally has been fairly conservative in dress... embrace it. "Business casual" is often driven by where one works. Denim jeans are not business casual in the airlines. Period. Dot. Yes, they look great, and your girlfriend thinks you look hot in them, Mr Jordache.
As an airline pilot, why would you go out of your way to buck the system when you are trying to get a ride home? You've got a pair of slacks, so wear them (notwithstanding the emergency scenario mentioned earlier). Save the argument about how you don't like your uniform pants that much. I'm assuming they are at least in nice shape. If they aren't... well, that's a different matter, and still your fault.
But if you want to buck the system, don't get butt hurt when a Captain decides to leave you on the jetway. Sure, others may have let you on. But he didn't, and you only have yourself to blame.
Why is this so hard?
But since you work in the airline industry... which traditionally has been fairly conservative in dress... embrace it. "Business casual" is often driven by where one works. Denim jeans are not business casual in the airlines. Period. Dot. Yes, they look great, and your girlfriend thinks you look hot in them, Mr Jordache.
As an airline pilot, why would you go out of your way to buck the system when you are trying to get a ride home? You've got a pair of slacks, so wear them (notwithstanding the emergency scenario mentioned earlier). Save the argument about how you don't like your uniform pants that much. I'm assuming they are at least in nice shape. If they aren't... well, that's a different matter, and still your fault.
But if you want to buck the system, don't get butt hurt when a Captain decides to leave you on the jetway. Sure, others may have let you on. But he didn't, and you only have yourself to blame.
Why is this so hard?
#22
From the almighty FOM:
"Confirm the jumpseater meets grooming and attire requirements...appropriate attire such as pilot uniform or business casual. Denim jeans are not acceptable...."
If you want to roll the bones on a seat in back, go ahead, but UAL says unless you're a mechanic, best put on the polyester for the flight deck.
"Confirm the jumpseater meets grooming and attire requirements...appropriate attire such as pilot uniform or business casual. Denim jeans are not acceptable...."
If you want to roll the bones on a seat in back, go ahead, but UAL says unless you're a mechanic, best put on the polyester for the flight deck.
#23
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Somebody shows up to ride my jumpseat who is cass approved, is always welcomed. My only requirement is they look presentable; jeans ok, polo shirt ok, flip flops ok too but I might suggest next time wearing shoes next time. What I don't want is someone showing up like they just got out of the gym. I recognize JS is one of the few benefits pilots have left and I'll every effort to get a pilot where they want to go. It's the way I roll :-)
#24
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If someone shows up for the jumpseat they better have a good reason for wearing jeans, shorts, flip flops, or a member's only jacket. A reason as in this travel was unplanned and it's an emergency that I travel. Then I'll bend over backwards to help. Other than that, show some respect.
Obtw, please don't walk into the cockpit, slam down the jumpseat card and state you have to ride up front. Asking permission is @$4&(!. common courtesy.
Obtw, please don't walk into the cockpit, slam down the jumpseat card and state you have to ride up front. Asking permission is @$4&(!. common courtesy.
#25
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Years ago one of my women F/OS told me, "nothing better looking than a man in a pair of starched, pressed, with a seam, Wranglers and shiny cowboy boots.
She pointed them out in the terminal at AUS. Of course they bought a ticket and didn't ask for the JS.
Boy has this thread reached the ... well it's reached something.
She pointed them out in the terminal at AUS. Of course they bought a ticket and didn't ask for the JS.
Boy has this thread reached the ... well it's reached something.
#26
These threads always make me appreciate I'm at Southwest and commute on Southwest 99% of the time. I'm all for maintaining the professionalism this industry has always been known for, but I have seen plenty of times where a nice pair of jeans with a button down looks far more professional than some old dockers with an old worn out polo with a tired looking collar.
#27
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These threads always make me appreciate I'm at Southwest and commute on Southwest 99% of the time. I'm all for maintaining the professionalism this industry has always been known for, but I have seen plenty of times where a nice pair of jeans with a button down looks far more professional than some old dockers with an old worn out polo with a tired looking collar.
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From the almighty FOM:
"Confirm the jumpseater meets grooming and attire requirements...appropriate attire such as pilot uniform or business casual. Denim jeans are not acceptable...."
If you want to roll the bones on a seat in back, go ahead, but UAL says unless you're a mechanic, best put on the polyester for the flight deck.
"Confirm the jumpseater meets grooming and attire requirements...appropriate attire such as pilot uniform or business casual. Denim jeans are not acceptable...."
If you want to roll the bones on a seat in back, go ahead, but UAL says unless you're a mechanic, best put on the polyester for the flight deck.
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