It's good to be a United pilot (today). . .
10-05-2016, 04:16 AM
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It's good to be a United pilot (today). . .
United has about 3500 pilots on the 767-400 or bigger, all getting paid the highest rate, with a total active count of 10904 according to the vacancy posting dated 8/1/16. (I guesstimated the number of 767-400 at about 300)
But . . .
we are ending 2016 with 20 747s and they are slated to be retired by the end of 2018,
But . .
we have 35 A350s plus 14 (is it more now - I forget) 777-300s coming and the 777s come next year!
1 out of every 3 pilots at United is a WB pilot getting the highest pay rate!
I don't know but if I were comparing preferred Legacies that might make me take notice
But . . .
we are ending 2016 with 20 747s and they are slated to be retired by the end of 2018,
But . .
we have 35 A350s plus 14 (is it more now - I forget) 777-300s coming and the 777s come next year!
1 out of every 3 pilots at United is a WB pilot getting the highest pay rate!
I don't know but if I were comparing preferred Legacies that might make me take notice
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10-05-2016, 07:36 AM
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10-05-2016, 07:41 AM
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If that is the case, the A350's seem superfluous.
10-05-2016, 10:13 AM
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Yes, but fewer official orders than before as some of the 777-300ER orders were "converted" from 787s.
We are still sitting on a ton of 787 options so it's pretty much semantics as UAL is in a position to buy as many, or as few, aircraft as desired.
We are still sitting on a ton of 787 options so it's pretty much semantics as UAL is in a position to buy as many, or as few, aircraft as desired.
10-05-2016, 10:19 AM
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1 in January 17
1 in Feb 17
and then a bit of a break and 1 in Aug 17
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...19&output=html
this spreadsheet shows all upcoming deliveries for all carriers out almost a year
1 in Feb 17
and then a bit of a break and 1 in Aug 17
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...19&output=html
this spreadsheet shows all upcoming deliveries for all carriers out almost a year
10-05-2016, 04:20 PM
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Gag. You're probably some ex-military, faux humble dude who thinks it's bragging to state the FACT that it's a good time to be at United due to all the wide bodies. Go cash your military pension check and zip it, Richie Rich. LOL
10-05-2016, 07:46 PM
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Yes, I think the OP comes across as a tone deaf braggart. When you consider the basic staffing needs of any airline, the top 30% of seniority-based manpower will always find their way to the highest paying positions.
How about this: It's a great time to be at Delta, and at American, and at FedEx because the top 30% of those pilot groups are getting paid top tier rates. It's sorta "Master of the Obvious" stuff in a seniority based industry.
In the case of UAL, what prospective hires should be asking is "what's the average age of the top 30%?". Pay rates come and go, but seniority, and age are pretty static. Granted UAL is nowhere as bad as SWA or Virgin Alaska for future upgrades, but they'll swingin' gear for a good while before they ever see a wide-body left seat.
10-05-2016, 07:52 PM
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faux humble?
Yes, I think the OP comes across as a tone deaf braggart. When you consider the basic staffing needs of any airline, the top 30% of seniority-based manpower will always find their way to the highest paying positions.
How about this: It's a great time to be at Delta, and at American, and at FedEx because the top 30% of those pilot groups are getting paid top tier rates. It's sorta "Master of the Obvious" stuff in a seniority based industry.
In the case of UAL, what prospective hires should be asking is "what's the average age of the top 30%?". Pay rates come and go, but seniority, and age are pretty static. Granted UAL is nowhere as bad as SWA or Virgin Alaska for future upgrades, but they'll swingin' gear for a good while before they ever see a wide-body left seat.
Yes, I think the OP comes across as a tone deaf braggart. When you consider the basic staffing needs of any airline, the top 30% of seniority-based manpower will always find their way to the highest paying positions.
How about this: It's a great time to be at Delta, and at American, and at FedEx because the top 30% of those pilot groups are getting paid top tier rates. It's sorta "Master of the Obvious" stuff in a seniority based industry.
In the case of UAL, what prospective hires should be asking is "what's the average age of the top 30%?". Pay rates come and go, but seniority, and age are pretty static. Granted UAL is nowhere as bad as SWA or Virgin Alaska for future upgrades, but they'll swingin' gear for a good while before they ever see a wide-body left seat.
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