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10-01-2016, 07:09 PM

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Grumble

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Originally Posted by Probe

You mistook my meaning. We are in total agreement.

Yeah see above for sarcasm meter MRD.

10-02-2016, 03:48 AM

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Probe

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Originally Posted by Grumble

Yeah see above for sarcasm meter MRD.

Roggggggggg

10-02-2016, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumble

You're smoking crack.

DAL is only getting the rates they are because DAL has never accepted anything less than industry leading wages, because...

We voted in the extension that put us on top which gave DAL the leverage for....

This TA, which....

Will enact the snap up leading to another raise.

You keeping up?

You seriously think any of this would've happened by now if we'd voted the extension down?

If you don't like your QOL, you can now work significantly less for the same money you were making 10 months ago.

Plus we had to vote down a substandard POS TA and then you guys raised the bar. I'm sure it was a factor.

10-02-2016, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by qball

Plus we had to vote down a substandard POS TA and then you guys raised the bar. I'm sure it was a factor.

Big thank you for voting down the POS15 and holding the line on no more large RJs now. Hope when the final TA wording comes out you guys like what you see.

10-02-2016, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by UALinIAH

Big thank you for voting down the POS15 and holding the line on no more large RJs now. Hope when the final TA wording comes out you guys like what you see.

I think all groups are starting to get that it's a team effort to raise the bar, not a competition.

10-02-2016, 04:13 PM

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I think all groups are starting to get that it's a team effort to raise the bar, not a competition.

would be great if the groups stuck in bidding wars at the plethora of rj operators would start to get it - and raise that bar as well. seems the only reason the boards and c-suites at the legacies use rj operators is to be able to have pilots bid against each other in a race to the bottom

10-03-2016, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by buscappy

The RJ operators actually have been doing what you said for the last few years. You have seen TAs rejected at multiple regionals over the last few years. Now they are all in a bidding war for new hires, each of them offering larger signing bonuses. Starting pay packages now are equalling that of some LCC and national airlines. As a group they have shown a greater collective will at saying "no" than the legacy groups.