Rumor Brian Znotins No Longer With United
09-29-2016, 04:02 PM
#11
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Well, since the merger and Jeff's new policies on upgrades, why in the world would anyone buy first class when you can get an upgrade for pennies? First class used to pay for the plane. If you give it away, so much for yield management.
As for non rev, I guess we need to pay more attention here. Non rev virtually never get first class anymore because it is filled with upgrades before non rev. I can't even get an upgrade to a positive space DH. I haven't seen non rev in first for a very long time.
As for non rev, I guess we need to pay more attention here. Non rev virtually never get first class anymore because it is filled with upgrades before non rev. I can't even get an upgrade to a positive space DH. I haven't seen non rev in first for a very long time.
09-29-2016, 06:05 PM
#12
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All I've heard from F/A's, gate agents, pilots that had flown those routes be it the 777 or 747 was that many GS and frequent business travelers were voicing displeasure with the move to our 787 premium product. That's why I asked if we really had zero paying F class vs that being a speculative comment.
09-29-2016, 06:49 PM
#13
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Sure they complained, but not because they could no longer pay for first class. They complained because they were getting the product and not paying for it. They would rather pay for business first knowing they have a seat over economy. VS paying for business and getting a upgrade to first. Causing another upgrade from economy.
09-29-2016, 06:55 PM
#14
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Yeah! Got them right here... Why would I ask if he had actual numbers if I myself had them?
All I've heard from F/A's, gate agents, pilots that had flown those routes be it the 777 or 747 was that many GS and frequent business travelers were voicing displeasure with the move to our 787 premium product. That's why I asked if we really had zero paying F class vs that being a speculative comment.
All I've heard from F/A's, gate agents, pilots that had flown those routes be it the 777 or 747 was that many GS and frequent business travelers were voicing displeasure with the move to our 787 premium product. That's why I asked if we really had zero paying F class vs that being a speculative comment.
First class phase-out picks up steam - TravelSkills
09-30-2016, 02:06 AM
#15
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20 years ago, flying to South America and Europe, we used to have quite a few full rev pax in 1st class. By 10 years later, it had stopped. Those super hi rev pax went fractional. They are gone. Those 1st class pods took up so much square footage, it hasn't made money for years.
It was great as a non-rev. Business would fill up, and we usually got 1st class.
My profit sharing check is happy the pods are going the way of the white buffalo.
Brian seemed like a bright guy. I heard him talk a couple of times, and answer questions. He seemed pretty knowledgeable.
Or, I am wrong.
It was great as a non-rev. Business would fill up, and we usually got 1st class.
My profit sharing check is happy the pods are going the way of the white buffalo.
Brian seemed like a bright guy. I heard him talk a couple of times, and answer questions. He seemed pretty knowledgeable.
Or, I am wrong.
09-30-2016, 03:43 AM
#16
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 88
20 years ago, flying to South America and Europe, we used to have quite a few full rev pax in 1st class. By 10 years later, it had stopped. Those super hi rev pax went fractional. They are gone. Those 1st class pods took up so much square footage, it hasn't made money for years.
It was great as a non-rev. Business would fill up, and we usually got 1st class.
My profit sharing check is happy the pods are going the way of the white buffalo.
Brian seemed like a bright guy. I heard him talk a couple of times, and answer questions. He seemed pretty knowledgeable.
Or, I am wrong.
It was great as a non-rev. Business would fill up, and we usually got 1st class.
My profit sharing check is happy the pods are going the way of the white buffalo.
Brian seemed like a bright guy. I heard him talk a couple of times, and answer questions. He seemed pretty knowledgeable.
Or, I am wrong.
09-30-2016, 07:16 AM
#20
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Position: 737 CA
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As for non rev, I guess we need to pay more attention here. Non rev virtually never get first class anymore because it is filled with upgrades before non rev. I can't even get an upgrade to a positive space DH. I haven't seen non rev in first for a very long time.
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Last edited by jsled; 09-30-2016 at 07:36 AM.
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