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Old 09-22-2016, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
I am not previous military and I never worked for a regional/commuter airline.

Flight instructor, jump pilot, air tours over the Grand Canyon, bush pilot in Ak, fire fighting pilot, corporate, international freight, major airline #1, and finally UAL 19+ years ago.

Do yourself a favor and take the road most traveled nowadays. Flight school, instructor, 1500 hours, regional, the one that gets you an upgrade and turbine PIC the fastest, major airline. BUT don't forget that you need to have a four year degree as well. I did all of my ratings and got a CFI prior to college, I worked as an instructor/ jump pilot/ tour pilot during college. When I graduated college I already had almost 2,000 hours flight time. That worked out really well for me.
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Originally Posted by John Carr
XJT isn't a "full interview", no TSA.



I know you had a that longer road

But for A LOT of pilots now, it's almost like there's an intermediate stop requires after the magical TPIC is met at the regional. A tour at a ULCC/LCC/ACMI carrier.
Trans States isn't recommended I thought? ExpressJet w/ United CPP.
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Originally Posted by BeeWatcher
From what I know I would go to CommutAir over Xjet...CommutAir is going from a small prop outfit to a major regional in a very short time...more movement and quicker upgrade. There are also fewer pilots "ahead" of you with the flow through carrot...
How is CommutAir pay and QOL? Is there an IAH base?
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Originally Posted by robthree
The reason fewer took the CommuteAir route vs Xjet is because the pay and quality of life at one has been much worse than the other.

Its a brand new world at the regionals these days with big signing bonuses and flow through agreements. So YMMV. Do your homework, see who has the big paydays, see who had the fast upgrades, see who doesn't treat their pilots like trash. Everything is subject to change, with no prior notice.

Good luck!
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Old 09-22-2016, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jland0413
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UAL requires a college degree?
Everything Airhoss said...everything. You will need all of those things (including a degree) to get to United.

He knows his chit and has given you very good advise on the quickest and most probable (being just as important) way of getting on to a major. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Jland0413
I'm sorry...what is a training contract? I'm new to this.
Back before the hiring boom the Regional airlines would make new pilots sign a contract for tens of thousands of dollars to cover "training"... if they left before the contract ended they had to pay back the cost. Now that hiring is booming many Regionals are losing a lot of pilots to the majors... so some are getting desperate and don't require a contract anymore... some even paying bonuses for staying XX months. This industry is a roller coaster... depends when you get on.
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Originally Posted by Consuela
Everything Airhoss said...everything. You will need all of those things (including a degree) to get to United.

He knows his chit and has given you very good advise on the quickest and most probable (being just as important) way of getting on to a major. Good luck!
Thanks!
So AA is the only major that doesn't require a college degree? Via Envoy, PSA, or Piedmont?
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Originally Posted by Jland0413
Thanks!
So AA is the only major that doesn't require a college degree? Via Envoy, PSA, or Piedmont?
UAL also doesn't require a degree.

That said, I'd venture that 98% of the new-hires at both airlines have one. This is your competition. Do the math.
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
UAL also doesn't require a degree.

That said, I'd venture that 98% of the new-hires at both airlines have one. This is your competition. Do the math.
Thanks for clarifying.
I'm just curious...as the shortage grows...will a degree be required in the future?
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Originally Posted by Jland0413
Trans States isn't recommended I thought? ExpressJet w/ United CPP.
The "TSA" I was referring to was the Technical Skills Assessment. XJT CPP pilots don't do that part of the interview. Just the F2F.
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