220 Additional Aircraft - 17,000 Pilot List
09-20-2016, 03:01 PM
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I try to be a realistic optimist with regards to the company, but even I think it's pretty unlikely.
220 total orders? Believable.
220 gain?
That would be a 33% gain in airraft operated, as well as pilots on the list. Over the next 3-4 years.....averaging 8-10% growth a year, not the 2% shrink for 2017.
Unless:
Unless we took most RJ flying in-house....and then I believe you could actually see those kinds of numbers. Doesn't require astronomical GDP growth, either. Still has capacity-control.
So hypothetically, why would Oscar do such a thing?
Maybe looking into the crystal ball at (qualified and desirable) pilot shortages, system reliability/accountability, Premium features, and the Polaris concept. If he is committed to providing a premium product, maybe they are trying to jump the gun on the competition.
Just a thought. Capital for the planes would be the biggest issue, I would think.
Or.....just buy a Regional airline.
220 total orders? Believable.
220 gain?
That would be a 33% gain in airraft operated, as well as pilots on the list. Over the next 3-4 years.....averaging 8-10% growth a year, not the 2% shrink for 2017.
Unless:
Unless we took most RJ flying in-house....and then I believe you could actually see those kinds of numbers. Doesn't require astronomical GDP growth, either. Still has capacity-control.
So hypothetically, why would Oscar do such a thing?
Maybe looking into the crystal ball at (qualified and desirable) pilot shortages, system reliability/accountability, Premium features, and the Polaris concept. If he is committed to providing a premium product, maybe they are trying to jump the gun on the competition.
Just a thought. Capital for the planes would be the biggest issue, I would think.
Or.....just buy a Regional airline.
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09-21-2016, 06:56 AM
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09-21-2016, 09:45 AM
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Don't shoot the messenger - Just passing on what I heard from several check airman who attended a recent Standards meeting. Oscar and other senior management gave briefings.
The company is planning on a net gain of 220 mainline aircraft by 2020. They say this will equate to 17,000 total pilots. It was also said to expect very large bids starting in June of 17. They also say when finished, TK will have a total of 40 Full Flight Simulators.
I know we've heard this before and it doesn't seem feasible given lower recent hiring numbers, significant future retirements and despite of all the hiring they past few years, we continue to stagnate around 12,500 pilots. Nevertheless, this is what senior management is telling check airman at this years annual meetings.
Thought I'd pass on what I heard from multiple check airman who attended these meetings.
The company is planning on a net gain of 220 mainline aircraft by 2020. They say this will equate to 17,000 total pilots. It was also said to expect very large bids starting in June of 17. They also say when finished, TK will have a total of 40 Full Flight Simulators.
I know we've heard this before and it doesn't seem feasible given lower recent hiring numbers, significant future retirements and despite of all the hiring they past few years, we continue to stagnate around 12,500 pilots. Nevertheless, this is what senior management is telling check airman at this years annual meetings.
Thought I'd pass on what I heard from multiple check airman who attended these meetings.
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