doober

Just had a gander at sect 20K and did not see a definition per se for field standby (FSB). Also looked through Dave's reserve gouge v5.5 and didn't really see anything in there either. The only thing that I could find was that it is limited to 4 hrs. I could not find anything else as far as time to show/go from notification. Also what is the definition of "field"? On the airport premises? In ops? Crew room? Inside vs outside security? Contract and or LOA ref's would be helpful. Its very likely that i've just missed it and its in the upa plain as day!

THX!
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Dave Fitzgerald

The last time I did field stand by, I did it in my car in the parking lot. 25 minute walk from the lot to ops. T-shirt and shorts.

The crew desk was offended when they called at 3:59, when I told them it would take me about 30 minutes to get on the DH, that was leaving in about 10 minutes. Oh well. I was offended when they called at 3:59.

You are correct, none of that is defined.

Triumph

In addition to the 4 hour rule, they have to have you on a plane with a departure time no later that 5 hours after the start of your FSB.

APC225

Pretty sketchy, but some there is some info at 5-H-1 & 2. One important item not mentioned anywhere is it's a 12 hour call out, just like a trip. Right back on LSR when it's over if not used, no different from any other assignment. Something to consider is the 60 minute report time (30 minute for DH) in the FOM. Not sure if it applies on FSB (does the "report time" clock begin at the start of the FSB or when the trip assignment is made?).

baseball

Maybe the company needs to install or park RV's in the airport parking lot. Parking lot is as standby as I get. No pay equals no report to Ops.

awax

Sounds reasonable. I've been fortunate enough avoid reserve during the UPA. Just for clarification, is there no pay at all for FSB, not even per diem? What's that saying....."no bucks, no Buck Rogers"

jsled

5-H Field Standby Assignments

5-H-1 When a Pilot is called to the airport on a standby basis without a specified Flight assignment, his Duty Period shall begin at the time he is scheduled to report or actually reports, whichever is later.

There are 66 references to Field Standby in the UPA, some of which mention the "airport" in the same sentence. So, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that "field" means at the airport. The report time is defined above. Other than that, I could not find a clear definition. That's not a bad thing. The lack of a clear definition used to apply to a short call as well, but people pushed the envelope, and now that's not the case. As far as pay...we are payed 73 hours to sit reserve and comply with the contract.
In Den, there is a sign in sheet. I personally dress, pack, and ride the Airside bus to OPS so that I sign in at report time. Then I shoot the sheet/watch TV/do CQT/drink coffee for 4 hours until my time is up. The intent is to recover the operation from a real time hiccup. Personally, i'd rather do the above then sit in my car in the parking lot, but that's just me.

Dave Fitzgerald

Lets, be really clear here.

There is no requirement to sign in on a sheet. Anything other than reporting to the airport, is an interpretation. If a domicile has a sign in sheet, that is for their convenience only. If your phone works where ever you are on the airport, as far as I'm concerned, that's good enough.

We had a chance to fix the field standby problems in the contract extension, but that turned out to not be a priority for the negotiating committee.

If they want to pay me more, I'll do more, but not more than what the contract says we have to do. If you feel like doing more, that's great. Me, not so much.

Enforce your contract, insist on it!

APC225

And then there's the issue of accepting the existence of a sign in sheet, signing in regularly, and then them saying it's required at some point. Past practice or something like that. During negotiations we stop signing in and they say it's an illegal job action.

Dave Fitzgerald

Agreed. Bad precedent. I would say, show me in the contract where it says we must sign in. Maybe I'll be the test case. I volunteer!