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Old 09-10-2016, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Probe
Of course not. Lets just DH them to and from their domicile forever. They deserve it, after all.

Sorry but the world is always changing. I wish we could all live in our dream home town, and start and end our trips from there.

Actually there are cargo outfits that do that, and some fractional jobs as well. We are a scheduled airline, and it doesn't work that way for us. Except it does now, for our Cleveland domicile.

There is some pre-merger drug deal to keep Cleveland open. Maybe UAL to ALPA. Maybe UAL to the city. I am not privy to it. Is it forever, or for a set period of time? I don't know. But Cleveland is open for a specific reason, which has nothing to do with marketing or economic reality. SEA was the same for a long time.
I'm not based in Cleveland but have a lot of friends who are. I read your comment above about deadheading to start and end every trip. Pretty ignorant thing to say. Pull up the October bid pack for Cle and count the trips that start or end with dh, you might learn something. Only about five trips that run once a month. Not even a blip in the bid pack.

Not sure why so many pilot relish the idea of inflicting pain on others.
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Old 09-10-2016, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CALFO

Not sure why so many pilot relish the idea of inflicting pain on others.
Once upon a time, there was a UAL CLE base......and MIA, HNL, ANC, SEA. Among both airlines there were DC8, DC10, 727, MD80 aircraft just to name a few.

No doubt it sucks to get booted out of a base or fleet, been there & done that many times. But you know, I've never been through a base or fleet closure caused by pilots. CLE, or any fleet/base, is not a unique or special snowflake - add more value to the network than it costs, or it goes away.

You could reframe your statement above as "why would 200 CLE pilots want to diminish the profit sharing checks for the other 12,000+ just so they can drive to work?".

Don't worry, Kirby will explain it.
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Old 09-10-2016, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by awax
Once upon a time, there was a UAL CLE base......and MIA, HNL, ANC, SEA. Among both airlines there were DC8, DC10, 727, MD80 aircraft just to name a few.

No doubt it sucks to get booted out of a base or fleet, been there & done that many times. But you know, I've never been through a base or fleet closure caused by pilots. CLE, or any fleet/base, is not a unique or special snowflake - add more value to the network than it costs, or it goes away.

You could reframe your statement above as "why would 200 CLE pilots want to diminish the profit sharing checks for the other 12,000+ just so they can drive to work?".

Don't worry, Kirby will explain it.
Don't forget BUF. Ex-Capital base.
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