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Old 10-23-2016, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
I haven't seen numbers for the number of new hires...but it seems the junior guy system wide is always around 12,500. That looks to me that hiring is just keeping up with retirement. That's just a cursory look at the numbers.

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Old 10-24-2016, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Yup.

A year ago "they" were officially saying 1000 in 2016. Obviously that didn't happen.

Hopefully the combination of consolidating the training centers and the arrival of the new 737-700s, 777-300ERs, and A350s will result in the BIG numbers we have all been waiting for.

We will see.....
Four months ago "they" were saying 18,000 pilots at UAL by 2020... so they better getta hirin'
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230 AC on order, not including the 11/14 319 leases/options. If they get rid of all 747 (22), all 757(95), and 767(51), plus some of the leased 737-800/900(99), the pilot count could go down with 267 net AC loss. But if we assume only half go away that is 267/2=134ish. So a net of approximately 100 gained aircraft yields 1000-1500 more pilots. Probably peak of the bell curve of possibilities unless there is a 100 seat order, a merger, or a significant world event.

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Old 10-24-2016, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Four months ago "they" were saying 18,000 pilots at UAL by 2020... so they better getta hirin'
They never alluded to how we'll achieve such lofty totals. Rumor is they need feed for a major international expansion and intend to purchase SWA. After a few minor divestitures balancing manpower thru attrition, we arrive at 18k give our take a few.
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Old 10-24-2016, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
They never alluded to how we'll achieve such lofty totals. Rumor is they need feed for a major international expansion and intend to purchase SWA. After a few minor divestitures balancing manpower thru attrition, we arrive at 18k give our take a few.
What do they plan to do with the 65, 737-700s?
They don't seem to be replacing anything. Speculation at the regionals is that United will start taking over more or the flying that the regionals currently do. The other guys seem to be doing the same thing. Jet Blue has the 190s, Delta ordered the CS300 . This could be where some of the growth is going to come from.
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Old 10-24-2016, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainDooley
What do they plan to do with the 65, 737-700s?
They don't seem to be replacing anything. Speculation at the regionals is that United will start taking over more or the flying that the regionals currently do.
It's not speculation.

The official plan distributed publiclly is "United" (mainline + express) will not grow significantly but mainline will as the new 737s are earmarked as RJ replacements. That means express will....

(Caveat: that plan was shared prior to the big management changes. Standby for the new plan....)
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Old 10-24-2016, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
They never alluded to how we'll achieve such lofty totals. Rumor is they need feed for a major international expansion and intend to purchase SWA. After a few minor divestitures balancing manpower thru attrition, we arrive at 18k give our take a few.
Intend to buy Southwest huh... now thats a juicy rumor.
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Old 10-24-2016, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PA Slammer
Intend to buy Southwest huh... now thats a juicy rumor.
While we are at it; let's buy Frontier, Alaska and Hawaii.
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Old 10-24-2016, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
It's not speculation.

The official plan distributed publiclly is "United" (mainline + express) will not grow significantly but mainline will as the new 737s are earmarked as RJ replacements. That means express will....

(Caveat: that plan was shared prior to the big management changes. Standby for the new plan....)
Any word on where Mainline will start taking over routes and locations?

Hopefully VPS or PNS soon!!!
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Old 10-24-2016, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
It's not speculation.

The official plan distributed publiclly is "United" (mainline + express) will not grow significantly but mainline will as the new 737s are earmarked as RJ replacements. That means express will....

(Caveat: that plan was shared prior to the big management changes. Standby for the new plan....)
Kind of fits with what a United CA told me when I was on the JS.
He said he has a friend that has "a good source" that told him United will not renew the Express Jet contract when it expires...
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