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Old 06-28-2016, 05:33 AM
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From the United news release

High-quality water for high-quality coffee

Here are a few common questions we hear about onboard water:

Q: Can we use bottled water to brew coffee?
A: No, not in most cases. The water supply lines attach to the back of the coffeemakers, and there is no means of pouring bottled water into them. Coffee makers designed for bottled water are normally used on regional jets that lack a water tank. Representatives from illy have tested their products in our onboard coffee-makers, and the water quality successfully met their high standards.

Q: How do we know the water system is clean?
A: We use an ozone disinfection system which is safer, faster and more effective than other systems used in the industry. It not only disinfects, it improves the reliability of the entire system from the fill port to the faucet. We’ve invested $1.7 million in ozone disinfection carts that are in place at hubs and major stations, allowing us to disinfect every aircraft at least once every 90 days.

Q: What about the filters?
A: We recently stopped using carbon water filters in galleys. Tests revealed carbon water filters can actually cause more harm than good by harboring microbes and reducing chlorine levels, thus degrading water quality.

Q: How do we know the water we board is good?
A: We have strict water potability requirements for every station. When we open a new station, water service providers are required to provide proof of compliance to our standards and continue to meet them. The compliance program for water standards is a part of the ground handling contract to ensure quality remains high.

Q: How often do we test the water and water systems?
A: In addition to the disinfection program, United monitors water quality by testing samples at EPA-approved laboratories – every single plane in the fleet is tested annually. Engineering uses the data to write the maintenance program and validate established procedures, to implement process improvements and to collaborate with industry experts to share best practices and keep abreast of the latest advances in water technology.

Maintenance periodically inspects the entire water system. The inspection process includes a wide range of tasks. For example, our techs disassemble and inspect the faucets to ensure not only functionality, but cleanliness. The pressurization system is routinely checked because weak pressure often indicates system faults.

Q: What about the coffee makers on board?
A: The coffee makers and spigots get cleaned routinely. There is also a descale task in place to take care of hard water deposits; we descale using food-grade chemicals that are specifically formulated for United aircraft.

Q: Do we test for taste or smell of our water?
A: Taste, smell and color are subjective and are not enforced by the EPA or the FDA. When in doubt, we may require draining and refilling or disinfection, depending on the issue.

Q: How much water do we need on each plane? Should I worry if the gauge says 40 percent before my flight?
A: We use a fill formula that depends on aircraft type, flight duration and customer load factor. Sometimes flight crews mistakenly ask that water tanks be topped off to full before any flight, even though the calculation calls for a partial load on that flight, and we end up using extra fuel to transport that unnecessary water.
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Old 06-28-2016, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive
From the United news release

High-quality water for high-quality coffee

Here are a few common questions we hear about onboard water:

Q: Can we use bottled water to brew coffee?
A: No, not in most cases. The water supply lines attach to the back of the coffeemakers, and there is no means of pouring bottled water into them. Coffee makers designed for bottled water are normally used on regional jets that lack a water tank. Representatives from illy have tested their products in our onboard coffee-makers, and the water quality successfully met their high standards.

Q: How do we know the water system is clean?
A: We use an ozone disinfection system which is safer, faster and more effective than other systems used in the industry. It not only disinfects, it improves the reliability of the entire system from the fill port to the faucet. We’ve invested $1.7 million in ozone disinfection carts that are in place at hubs and major stations, allowing us to disinfect every aircraft at least once every 90 days.

Q: What about the filters?
A: We recently stopped using carbon water filters in galleys. Tests revealed carbon water filters can actually cause more harm than good by harboring microbes and reducing chlorine levels, thus degrading water quality.

Q: How do we know the water we board is good?
A: We have strict water potability requirements for every station. When we open a new station, water service providers are required to provide proof of compliance to our standards and continue to meet them. The compliance program for water standards is a part of the ground handling contract to ensure quality remains high.

Q: How often do we test the water and water systems?
A: In addition to the disinfection program, United monitors water quality by testing samples at EPA-approved laboratories – every single plane in the fleet is tested annually. Engineering uses the data to write the maintenance program and validate established procedures, to implement process improvements and to collaborate with industry experts to share best practices and keep abreast of the latest advances in water technology.

Maintenance periodically inspects the entire water system. The inspection process includes a wide range of tasks. For example, our techs disassemble and inspect the faucets to ensure not only functionality, but cleanliness. The pressurization system is routinely checked because weak pressure often indicates system faults.

Q: What about the coffee makers on board?
A: The coffee makers and spigots get cleaned routinely. There is also a descale task in place to take care of hard water deposits; we descale using food-grade chemicals that are specifically formulated for United aircraft.

Q: Do we test for taste or smell of our water?
A: Taste, smell and color are subjective and are not enforced by the EPA or the FDA. When in doubt, we may require draining and refilling or disinfection, depending on the issue.

Q: How much water do we need on each plane? Should I worry if the gauge says 40 percent before my flight?
A: We use a fill formula that depends on aircraft type, flight duration and customer load factor. Sometimes flight crews mistakenly ask that water tanks be topped off to full before any flight, even though the calculation calls for a partial load on that flight, and we end up using extra fuel to transport that unnecessary water.
Which RJs use bottled water for coffee? CRJ has a potable system, Ejet does too, and I'm pretty sure the E145 has a similar system.
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Old 06-28-2016, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by veewan
Which RJs use bottled water for coffee? CRJ has a potable system, Ejet does too, and I'm pretty sure the E145 has a similar system.
Actually, the E145 has a galley "tank/jug" reservoir that is filled manually by the FA with bottled water. If you look along the wall in the aisle next to the galley, there is a compartment door. Inside that door is a tank which slides out into the aisle and is filled by the FA. Most of the time this is done before passenger boarding so they never see it. The coffee maker water on the E145 comes from bottled water and not the potable water system.
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
Actually, the E145 has a galley "tank/jug" reservoir that is filled manually by the FA with bottled water. If you look along the wall in the aisle next to the galley, there is a compartment door. Inside that door is a tank which slides out into the aisle and is filled by the FA. Most of the time this is done before passenger boarding so they never see it. The coffee maker water on the E145 comes from bottled water and not the potable water system.
Thanks. Good to know! Like you said most people don't see it as it happens before boarding.
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Old 06-28-2016, 03:12 PM
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Had both the decaf and caffeinated yesterday - both were good. Hopefully the passengers think the new coffee is good. I haven't heard their opinion.
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Just catching up on Peter King's MMQB column this week and caught this:

g. Coffeenerdness: illy coffee, on United flights. I’m a fan.

He also has a notable comment in there about the Delta SFO terminal, here's the link:

New York Giants sweep Dallas Cowboys; NFL Week 14 notes | The MMQB with Peter King

Love to see it from a guy who travels constantly and is serious about his coffee. Can't buy that kind of endorsement.
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Originally Posted by CLazarus
Just catching up on Peter King's MMQB column this week and caught this:

g. Coffeenerdness: illy coffee, on United flights. I’m a fan.

He also has a notable comment in there about the Delta SFO terminal, here's the link:

New York Giants sweep Dallas Cowboys; NFL Week 14 notes | The MMQB with Peter King

Love to see it from a guy who travels constantly and is serious about his coffee. Can't buy that kind of endorsement.
He's serious about his doughnuts too
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