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06-15-2016, 10:15 AM
#102
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 846
Having been back at TK for almost two years. I have to agree. I love when crews pimp me for false info. Guys we know not one single thing that the line doesn't already know. And if we do have cutting edge information its most likely incorrect, purely false or some small sliver of truth subject to wild modification.
06-15-2016, 05:06 PM
#104
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 846
I always took Airhoss to be a standup guy and now you imply he was involved with scabs. I don't think he's old enough or senior enough to be included with that lot.
Then again you don't know what/who the Tracy pilots are and continue to call the 570 scabs. Have you ever taken the time to read 'Flying the Line'?
It really burns you that ALL 570 are all senior to you and it most cases much younger.
It's funny that the new hires know more about the UAL and CAL histories then you - why is that? Do you find your F/O's looking out the right side more lately? Wait, you are a captain - right?
06-15-2016, 05:31 PM
#106
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 622
I always took Airhoss to be a standup guy and now you imply he was involved with scabs. I don't think he's old enough or senior enough to be included with that lot.
Then again you don't know what/who the Tracy pilots are and continue to call the 570 scabs. Have you ever taken the time to read 'Flying the Line'?
It really burns you that ALL 570 are all senior to you and it most cases much younger.
It's funny that the new hires know more about the UAL and CAL histories then you - why is that? Do you find your F/O's looking out the right side more lately? Wait, you are a captain - right?
Then again you don't know what/who the Tracy pilots are and continue to call the 570 scabs. Have you ever taken the time to read 'Flying the Line'?
It really burns you that ALL 570 are all senior to you and it most cases much younger.
It's funny that the new hires know more about the UAL and CAL histories then you - why is that? Do you find your F/O's looking out the right side more lately? Wait, you are a captain - right?
Please tell me that the cockpits aren't as contentious as these threads. I've held both CAL and UAL on a pedestal for a while. The combination of these airlines (from the outside) seems like a great place to be. I truly hope that my "Target" airline is not/will not become what US Air and AWA became....
Am I wrong?
06-15-2016, 05:51 PM
#107
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2015
Position: 777 CA
Posts: 1,049
I don't want to get into the debate y'all are having ( I have no place in it ), but I am extremely interested in the history. Is the book you refered to a good start point?
Please tell me that the cockpits aren't as contentious as these threads. I've held both CAL and UAL on a pedestal for a while. The combination of these airlines (from the outside) seems like a great place to be. I truly hope that my "Target" airline is not/will not become what US Air and AWA became....
Am I wrong?
Please tell me that the cockpits aren't as contentious as these threads. I've held both CAL and UAL on a pedestal for a while. The combination of these airlines (from the outside) seems like a great place to be. I truly hope that my "Target" airline is not/will not become what US Air and AWA became....
Am I wrong?
06-15-2016, 06:19 PM
#109
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 846
I don't want to get into the debate y'all are having ( I have no place in it ), but I am extremely interested in the history. Is the book you refered to a good start point?
Please tell me that the cockpits aren't as contentious as these threads. I've held both CAL and UAL on a pedestal for a while. The combination of these airlines (from the outside) seems like a great place to be. I truly hope that my "Target" airline is not/will not become what US Air and AWA became....
Am I wrong?
Please tell me that the cockpits aren't as contentious as these threads. I've held both CAL and UAL on a pedestal for a while. The combination of these airlines (from the outside) seems like a great place to be. I truly hope that my "Target" airline is not/will not become what US Air and AWA became....
Am I wrong?
http://www3.alpa.org/publications/Fl...he_Line_II.pdf
Use to be able to get the books by calling or writing ALPA but you'll likely get referred to the online version now days.
I wouldn't turn down a job at AA or DL waiting on United. It is about the money. Both airlines had a history and some employee pride in their respective airline. Today the combined airlines has no real identity and most employees put in their time, collect their paycheck and go home. I think Jeff Smisek would be proud with the mess his implementation of the merger has created.
Good thing is the pay is good and you can walk away from the job and not worry about it til the next trip. Good Luck!
06-15-2016, 06:54 PM
#110
Still an FO
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: 757/767 FO
Posts: 27
I don't want to get into the debate y'all are having ( I have no place in it ), but I am extremely interested in the history. Is the book you refered to a good start point?
Please tell me that the cockpits aren't as contentious as these threads. I've held both CAL and UAL on a pedestal for a while. The combination of these airlines (from the outside) seems like a great place to be. I truly hope that my "Target" airline is not/will not become what US Air and AWA became....
Am I wrong?
Please tell me that the cockpits aren't as contentious as these threads. I've held both CAL and UAL on a pedestal for a while. The combination of these airlines (from the outside) seems like a great place to be. I truly hope that my "Target" airline is not/will not become what US Air and AWA became....
Am I wrong?
No the flight deck isn't anything like this. Been here a short while now and I love every minute of it. It is truly a great place to work. It's good to know the history. It will serve you well when talking to legacy pilots from both sides. Nod your head and smile and sympathize with them. Many have gone through hell and back in their careers. I pray I never do. In the end most of them are excited to see new guys and will tell you as much. Don't let this web board discourage you at all. Like I said it is a wonderful place to be right now.
