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Old 08-22-2016, 06:00 PM
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T38 hit it, mostly. The whine you hear is an electric hyd pump that's run when a motor is shut down. This prevents the power transfer unit (PTU) from trying to pressurize the opposite side that isn't being powered by the engine driven pump. That barking dog you hear in the back is the PTU. You run the electric pump to pressurize the system so the passengers don't have to listen to the barking dog. At the gate you'll hear electric hyd pumps come and go since that's how the cargo doors are opened and closed.

So, barking dog is a good thing: PTU

What we need is a PTU sound dampener. Electric pump is the barking dog quieter.

I think I speak airbus now. I just need to learn how to use the table and that side stick.

Why is there a voice that says "retard" while landing.... Sort of says it like he's some soho poof dragging on a cigarette.
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Old 08-22-2016, 06:22 PM
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So, barking dog is a good thing: PTU

What we need is a PTU sound dampener. Electric pump is the barking dog quieter.

I think I speak airbus now. I just need to learn how to use the table and that side stick.

Why is there a voice that says "retard" while landing.... Sort of says it like he's some soho poof dragging on a cigarette.
Don't know if they are still this way, but the earliest airplanes they had...maybe the first 10 or so....had a very primitive voice module.

It has the sound fidelity of a 1987 telephone answering machine being played underwater.

"Retard" sounds like "Bleptarlld!" in those airplanes.
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Old 08-22-2016, 06:48 PM
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So, barking dog is a good thing: PTU

What we need is a PTU sound dampener. Electric pump is the barking dog quieter.

I think I speak airbus now. I just need to learn how to use the table and that side stick.

Why is there a voice that says "retard" while landing.... Sort of says it like he's some soho poof dragging on a cigarette.
Some guys used to turn off the PTU at block in so the passengers didn't have to listen to the barking dog during the hydraulic pressure wind down. Then they'd sometimes forget to return the PTU switch back to auto as they were packing their stuff up. I think a bulletin came out at some point telling guys not to do it, so the barking dog at shutdown lives on. If you hear the PTU running continuously while sitting in the back during a single-engine taxi, you know the F/O missed turning that yellow electric pump on. I never did that of course.

That retard call out on landing is meaningless unless it is an autoland. On an autoland, the FMA goes to IDLE just under 50 feet RA and the thrust reduces to IDLE. The retard call out is just telling you to match the thrust levers position with the FMA (idle thrust position). On a manual landing using auto or manual thrust, the retard call out is still generated. However, you bring the thrust levers back to idle as you see fit for the conditions. Plenty of times I was hanging on to some power as it felt like the bottom was dropping out as Fifi was squawking "retard." Alternatively, there are cases on a manual landing where you might pull the thrust to idle before you hear a "retard" call out if the energy state warrants. Just learn to ignore it and do what you feel is needed, unless it's an autoland.

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Anyone have news on these birds? Are we still at just 1? If so, any time line on the rest?

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Anyone have news on these birds? Are we still at just 1? If so, any time line on the rest?

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The second one is doing its test hops, waiting for release to the line. The third recently ferried from China. The last leg was from ANC to wherever the MX facility is in the SE USA if I recall the routing correctly.

According to the 3rd Quarter fleet plan, should have 6 by year end. TK PI last week said we are getting 21 total.


Edit- found the routing.

"The third ex-CZ 319 is now enroute SHE-NRT-ANC-LCQ UA2188/2189/2190 to become N891UA"

Latest Induction dates....

4890 08/18/2016
4891 11/22/2016
4892 01/23/2017
4893 01/02/2017
4894 03/24/2017
4895 03/03/2017
4896 05/23/2017
4897 01/17/2018
4898 02/06/2018
4899 03/18/2018
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
The second one is doing its test hops, waiting for release to the line. The third recently ferried from China. The last leg was from ANC to wherever the MX facility is in the SE USA if I recall the routing correctly.

According to the 3rd Quarter fleet plan, should have 6 by year end. TK PI last week said we are getting 21 total.


Edit- found the routing.

"The third ex-CZ 319 is now enroute SHE-NRT-ANC-LCQ UA2188/2189/2190 to become N891UA"

Latest Induction dates....

4890 08/18/2016
4891 11/22/2016
4892 01/23/2017
4893 01/02/2017
4894 03/24/2017
4895 03/03/2017
4896 05/23/2017
4897 01/17/2018
4898 02/06/2018
4899 03/18/2018
Thanks! Where do you find those fleet plans? I must have missed it on upfront news.

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Originally Posted by C11DCA
The second one is doing its test hops, waiting for release to the line. The third recently ferried from China. The last leg was from ANC to wherever the MX facility is in the SE USA if I recall the routing correctly.

According to the 3rd Quarter fleet plan, should have 6 by year end. TK PI last week said we are getting 21 total.


Edit- found the routing.

"The third ex-CZ 319 is now enroute SHE-NRT-ANC-LCQ UA2188/2189/2190 to become N891UA"

Latest Induction dates....

4890 08/18/2016
4891 11/22/2016
4892 01/23/2017
4893 01/02/2017
4894 03/24/2017
4895 03/03/2017
4896 05/23/2017
4897 01/17/2018
4898 02/06/2018
4899 03/18/2018
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Yep. Been there on our old guppies.
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Originally Posted by detpilot
Thanks! Where do you find those fleet plans? I must have missed it on upfront news.

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The fleet upgrade thread on airliners. From a mechanic I believe.
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
The fleet upgrade thread on airliners. From a mechanic I believe.
Thanks!

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