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Old 06-27-2016, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Probe
The Chinese don't do that as much as their cousins to the south.
Learn something every day - thanks bro.
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Old 06-27-2016, 07:03 AM
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I for one will NOT be reading a 57 page differences bulletin on my own time for no pay..
yeah **** that I'm not going to read my FM and FOM revisions anymore!!! And bulletins those are a waste of time.....and don't even get me started on flight planning for an hour and a half off the clock.

Thanks for opening my eyes to my wrong doings.

PS....The 756 has 100s of changes, on what seems like a weekly basis, that must be read in the FM due to all the different variants we have. So If I were you I would avoid bidding that aircraft.
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
yeah **** that I'm not going to read my FM and FOM revisions anymore!!! And bulletins those are a waste of time.....and don't even get me started on flight planning for an hour and a half off the clock.

Thanks for opening my eyes to my wrong doings.

PS....The 756 has 100s of changes, on what seems like a weekly basis, that must be read in the FM due to all the different variants we have. So If I were you I would avoid bidding that aircraft.
Come on guys, play nice.

The real issue is safety and training vs. training by proxy and on the cheap. We've seen this before, and management has gotten away with it. No accidents, it must be safe. After all, NASA and the space shuttle got away with it, for a while...

PDR it, write FSAP's as unsafe.
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Old 06-27-2016, 09:39 AM
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Come on guys, play nice.

The real issue is safety and training vs. training by proxy and on the cheap. We've seen this before, and management has gotten away with it. No accidents, it must be safe. After all, NASA and the space shuttle got away with it, for a while...

PDR it, write FSAP's as unsafe.
While a good point but not sure it applies here. This is mostly a case of "this function is now over on this page of the FMGC". Not sure what other type of training would one need for something like this.
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Probe
The Chinese don't do that as much as their cousins to the south.

All I can say is holy **** to that because I don't consider a trip to PEK/PVG complete without seeing someone blow snot on the sidewalk or some dude taking a **** on the side of the highway.
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Old 06-28-2016, 07:24 AM
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While a good point but not sure it applies here. This is mostly a case of "this function is now over on this page of the FMGC". Not sure what other type of training would one need for something like this.

Well, we could develop a training course at TK, then we could hire trainers and get them proficient. Then, we could send all the trainers out to each domicile. Line Holders would either get 5 hours pay for a special class or a paid trip drop. Reserves would get scheduled on a day off. IT could develop a special training module that would simulate the changes in the FMGC. For those not comfortable with the training, they could arrange a paid trip to TK for an hour of hands on simulator time.

Or, we can just spend about 5 minutes reading the differences (which are very minor).
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Old 06-28-2016, 08:52 AM
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The biggest gotchya is when you punch the direct button and a fix you are GOIN there - now !!

There is no confirmation.
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Old 06-28-2016, 12:28 PM
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The biggest gotchya is when you punch the direct button and a fix you are GOIN there - now !!

There is no confirmation.
Jeff,

All of our Busses were like that back when I was on it before....'04-07
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Old 06-28-2016, 01:08 PM
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Jeff,

All of our Busses were like that back when I was on it before....'04-07
So basically UAL updated the software on "our" busses but didn't bother doing the same with these new ones when doing all the work???

Ugh.
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Old 06-28-2016, 03:30 PM
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Has anyone flown one yet?
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