United and Degrees
03-17-2016, 05:56 PM
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I recently had a jumpseater on board that was a long time (20+ year) Captain at a regional. He brought up the subject of not having a 4 year degree and said that he was "offended" by United's requirement.
Well...."offended" or not...those are the requirements and that's what it's going to take to get hired at the present time. There are plenty of well qualified applicants and not checking all of the boxes is not a fast track to employment here.
Definitely, get your 4 year degree.
Well...."offended" or not...those are the requirements and that's what it's going to take to get hired at the present time. There are plenty of well qualified applicants and not checking all of the boxes is not a fast track to employment here.
Definitely, get your 4 year degree.
03-17-2016, 07:10 PM
#12
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I recently had a jumpseater on board that was a long time (20+ year) Captain at a regional. He brought up the subject of not having a 4 year degree and said that he was "offended" by United's requirement.
Well...."offended" or not...those are the requirements and that's what it's going to take to get hired at the present time. There are plenty of well qualified applicants and not checking all of the boxes is not a fast track to employment here.
Definitely, get your 4 year degree.
Well...."offended" or not...those are the requirements and that's what it's going to take to get hired at the present time. There are plenty of well qualified applicants and not checking all of the boxes is not a fast track to employment here.
Definitely, get your 4 year degree.
It's not like it shot out of the blue, I'm pretty sure way on back in 1999 a degree was something the majors wanted.
I WAS offended by a DAL recruiter, after telling me how he worked his way through college over an 8 year period ask me why I didn't finish in 4. (Hint: I worked my way through college after getting my AA, and was flying for a regional) Worked out pretty well for me, but odd how the line I have been hearing since 2001 was "any degree, from any college" and now some places are starting to get a bit 'snobbish'
03-17-2016, 09:18 PM
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I know someone who was hired by a legacy with 2 DUIs relatively close to each other. One would think that would be a show stopper, right?
After he completed substance abuse treatment, he stayed clean and did everything he could to move beyond what happened to him. Marathons, job fairs and networking.
He went to every job fair he could and hit up everyone for recommendations. He truly turned his life around so he had that interview story covered.
Compare that to another friend, a regional Captain, who told me "If the mainline carrier wants to hire me, they know where to find me. I applied months ago."
Point I'm trying to make is, regardless of your shortcoming (degree, arrest etc), if you make it your mission in life to get hired it's definitely possible. Too many people expect it to happen and don't ever try to make it happen.
After he completed substance abuse treatment, he stayed clean and did everything he could to move beyond what happened to him. Marathons, job fairs and networking.
He went to every job fair he could and hit up everyone for recommendations. He truly turned his life around so he had that interview story covered.
Compare that to another friend, a regional Captain, who told me "If the mainline carrier wants to hire me, they know where to find me. I applied months ago."
Point I'm trying to make is, regardless of your shortcoming (degree, arrest etc), if you make it your mission in life to get hired it's definitely possible. Too many people expect it to happen and don't ever try to make it happen.
03-18-2016, 04:29 AM
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You'll need some serious other attributes to overcome not having a four year at the majors these days. With still so many military guys to choose from (many with graduate degrees) the competition at the majors will not yield for some time.
The degree is required because it changes you as a person. Your understanding and acumen is bolstered by a better understanding of the business world with a degree. Most Pro Aero degrees from decent aviation schools will require a substantial amount of business education. Going through this does change your understanding of business for the better and this is why major airlines prefer it. It also shows your dedication and determination to goal setting and achievement.
Get the degree done as its a minimum requirement in and out of the majors these days. You'll be glad you did and at a good school you'll be a more worldly and comfortable with business concepts for a lifetime. It's well worth the effort.
The degree is required because it changes you as a person. Your understanding and acumen is bolstered by a better understanding of the business world with a degree. Most Pro Aero degrees from decent aviation schools will require a substantial amount of business education. Going through this does change your understanding of business for the better and this is why major airlines prefer it. It also shows your dedication and determination to goal setting and achievement.
Get the degree done as its a minimum requirement in and out of the majors these days. You'll be glad you did and at a good school you'll be a more worldly and comfortable with business concepts for a lifetime. It's well worth the effort.
03-18-2016, 04:53 AM
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You'll need some serious other attributes to overcome not having a four year at the majors these days. With still so many military guys to choose from (many with graduate degrees) the competition at the majors will not yield for some time.
The degree is required because it changes you as a person. Your understanding and acumen is bolstered by a better understanding of the business world with a degree. Most Pro Aero degrees from decent aviation schools will require a substantial amount of business education. Going through this does change your understanding of business for the better and this is why major airlines prefer it. It also shows your dedication and determination to goal setting and achievement.
Get the degree done as its a minimum requirement in and out of the majors these days. You'll be glad you did and at a good school you'll be a more worldly and comfortable with business concepts for a lifetime. It's well worth the effort.
The degree is required because it changes you as a person. Your understanding and acumen is bolstered by a better understanding of the business world with a degree. Most Pro Aero degrees from decent aviation schools will require a substantial amount of business education. Going through this does change your understanding of business for the better and this is why major airlines prefer it. It also shows your dedication and determination to goal setting and achievement.
Get the degree done as its a minimum requirement in and out of the majors these days. You'll be glad you did and at a good school you'll be a more worldly and comfortable with business concepts for a lifetime. It's well worth the effort.
Experience makes you "worldly" not a piece of paper from a school.
The goal setting comment I wholeheartedly agree though.
03-18-2016, 05:12 AM
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How hard is this folks....
03-18-2016, 05:30 AM
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But can you show me were I was responding to the OP?
Versus who I ACTUALLY responded to that said a DUI/DWI was a show stopper.
Gotta read the FULL conversation.
Post 4 I'm quoting/responding to post 3.
How hard is this folks
03-18-2016, 05:41 AM
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To feign surprise or offense at this point makes me think UA has done a good job of appropriately screening his application.
03-18-2016, 06:26 AM
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