svergin

He left CAL before it died. Maybe he wants to finish the job?

Andy

Brenneman and Bonderman were the talent. Gordo was the used car salesman who sold their business plan and did the glad-handling.

AllenAllert

Which financial analyses, excluding the pilot types, said that? The reason they're acting now is the preceived weakness of OM and the Board.
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I know many are on the OM band wagon and many even beat-up on triple7 for daring question the actions OM as related to the mechanics and F/A's. Just because we got a 13% raise doesn't mean all's fine with the airline and other employee groups. While your sitting in the cockpit counting your money, why not skip a count and go to a mechanic shack and talk to the guys that maintain the aircraft. You'll be surprised that their wants/needs are not that much different than ours - show a little respect.
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Yes, I was using information that was credited to Lorenze from 'The Street' article posted on this forum. Re-read the article. If OM doesn't distance himself from the article and Lorenzo, then it's implied that he accepts Lorenzo's support.

Flytolive

Nope, just a very simple and obvious determination that the mechanics and F/As have a far better chance of getting the contracts they deserve if Meyer and Munoz control the BOD rather than Ace and Altimeter. triple7 and you like to mischaracterize what people post.

AllenAllert

If that's the case why hasn't OM worked a little harder to get a contract for the mechanics instead of the low ball offer he allowed. For the F/A's and with such a great leader, why hasn't he set the two groups down and mediated a joining and then a contract. Again the shills continue to promote somebody that's done nothing but give lip services.

As far as him being the better choice, it shouldn't be a choice. OM has the control of the company and he should stand up, deliver promises he's made the employees instead of the continued lip service. The outsiders want money and the same money they want is the money that should go to employees. OM keeps playing the game trying to determine the lessor of the evils for himself and the Board.

If OM's medical condition is keeping him from doing his job then he should let logic override his ego and step-aside.

Flytolive

WADR you (AllenAlert) continue to grossly mischaracterize the situation and your apparent expectation that a CEO can fix all United's problems and all the JCBAs/extensions in less than six months is absurd.

gettinbumped

Show a little respect?! Coming from you????? That's hysterical.

I will know who you are finally at the next town hall meeting when some pilot has his "Marco Rubio stole my girlfriend" moment while Oscar is speaking. It's the only thing that explains your hard over on a guy you had never heard of 6 months ago. Go read what the head of the AFA is saying about OM. And yes, that's the group WITHOUT a contract.

Lastly, you look tiny on that high horse of yours with your condescending BS about the pilot/mechanic relationship. I have NEVER met a pilot here who didn't respect the he// out of our machinists and the job they do for us. The only lack of respect I see around here is from you.

AllenAllert

Out of the gate OM wanted to fix United's labor problems and move forward in unity. It's true United was and is underperforming our competitors and it's obvious labor relations is a big part of that underperforming.

Prior to his medical respite, OM had a BIG labor summit planned. What happened to that? For those that say his plan was responsible for the recent pilot contract extension would be wrong. Given the current F/A's operating under 2 separate contracts and the low-ball offer to the mechanics, giving pilots 13% for and extension was cheap. Was it a political or PR coup by the TEMP while OM was under the knife. I don't know but it's possible it came from the JS plan instead of OM's or the TEMP's plan.

Andy

I doubt that Oscar has seen that article and you're still jumping the shark if you're expecting him to respond to it. And I did reread it before responding to your post; you mischaracterized the article - no surprise there.

Flytolive

UAL has been closing the gap financially since Munoz took over and operationally United is running neck and neck with Delta and beating SWA & AAL.

It was held on Monday 3/14/16.


Munoz was personally involved in the negotiation via telephone. It was approved by 79% of pilots. The dispatcher contract extension was approved by 91% of them. ALPA, AFA & IAM publicly support Munoz. The Teamsters are neutral.

As usual your assertions are simply not based on reality.