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Old 03-14-2016, 11:17 PM
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The flight attendants not having a contract is their own fault. Neither side wants anything to do with the other side.
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Old 03-14-2016, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jtriple7
Sorry my post had nothing to do with Alt, Par or Gordo. It was merely a reality check for the guys posting about how good the company is for employees.
I get it that if you guys are good you think that everybody else is good because its not your problem.
The traditional method of handling this would have been to start a new thread. The subject matter of this particular thread is Altimeter/PAR/Gordo.

I read your posts and thought that they were pertinent to the thread topic, as I'm sure everyone else did. I failed to see the connection which is why I asked you the question.

Your posts are the equivalent to being in Boston where the temp's 20 below zero you mention to a group of people that the temp will be a high of 65 today, failing to mention that you're referring to Miami.
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Old 03-15-2016, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jtriple7
I get it that if you guys are good you think that everybody else is good because its not your problem.
Not at all. I completely support both the F/As and mechanics and have picketed with both. Have you? The F/A expressed their support of Munoz and as Andy said,
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You think that the mechanics will fare better with the 'assistance' of Altimeter, PAR, and Gordo?.
Your posts are nonsensical.
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Old 03-15-2016, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
It could be as simple as Par and Altimeter want more than what the shareholders are currently getting. Maybe we have the greediest investors? It would appear we have the most generous management given our current pay rates (even though we all know we deserve more, have lost more, etc)
I don't know if Altimeter and Par have stock in DAL or AA but it's possible maybe those airlines' investers are happy with the $$ they are receiving and happy to see DAL not get a contract and AA to see no profit sharing and lesser work rules in their contract.
So I've heard pilot pay as the cause of a company making money or not, but I've never heard of pilot pay as a reason for a corporate takeover. Our salaries must be pretty important to the business plan.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
So I've heard pilot pay as the cause of a company making money or not, but I've never heard of pilot pay as a reason for a corporate takeover. Our salaries must be pretty important to the business plan.
With lower fuel prices employee salaries are once again the largest cost item on airlines' ledgers.
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
So I've heard pilot pay as the cause of a company making money or not, but I've never heard of pilot pay as a reason for a corporate takeover. Our salaries must be pretty important to the business plan.
No one at the hedge funds has mentioned pilot or any other line employee salaries. They said that Munoz was being overpaid, but that's just another jab at the BOD since the BOD set Munoz' salary.
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Old 03-15-2016, 12:45 PM
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Im IBT and I picketed at IAH, when im made aware of F/A picketing plans here I will picket with them also.

I already said why I posted which was to counter the happy employee company post that was made earlier. So anyway thanks for the un needed insult.



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Not at all. I completely support both the F/As and mechanics and have picketed with both. Have you? The F/A expressed their support of Munoz and as Andy said,Your posts are nonsensical.
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Old 03-15-2016, 12:54 PM
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So anyway thanks for the unneeded insult.
You might want to take a look in the mirror.
Originally Posted by jtriple7
I get it that if you guys are good you think that everybody else is good because its not your problem.
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Old 03-15-2016, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jtriple7
Sorry my post had nothing to do with Alt, Par or Gordo. It was merely a reality check for the guys posting about how good the company is for employees.
I get it that if you guys are good you think that everybody else is good because its not your problem.
That's not it at all. I would bet that most of us are keenly aware that the mechanics and FA's are operating without a new contract.

The reason all the employee union groups (minus the teamsters) have come out in strong support of Oscar is because the history of hedge funds taking over airlines is well told. They tend to use them as a personal ATM and leave the employees with a shell of the former company.

It's undeniable that labor relations have improved tremendously since Jeff's departure. If you think Alt/Par taking over the board is going to make things BETTER for mechanics and FA's, I would strongly urge you to reconsider.

In fact, just the distraction this group has brought to the situation makes getting you a new contract that much harder. This new threat requires massive amounts of time, attention, and resources that could be used to finish the labor contracts. I promise you Gorgo/Alt/Par couldn't care less
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Old 03-15-2016, 02:44 PM
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You have a nice day, from the guy that tightened the bolts holding your engine on.



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You might want to take a look in the mirror.
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