Did OM's respite cause current Board Takeover
03-12-2016, 05:08 PM
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We can't blame the takeover group or GB for taking the action they have. We've been without anybody running the store, even with OM trying from the sick bed. Where was the BOD?
I see your point but the months of nobody really looking out for the airline left it vulnerable to the takeover groups. United is/was making money with a Temp and OM(on sicklist) supposedly running the show but still underperforming our competitors. It puts the Board in poor light for not living up to their responsibility to the shareholders.
Unfortunately, OM's plan and vision will never come to fruition if the outside group is successful in the Board takeover.
I don't know that we can give credit to Temp and OM for changing direction of the airline. For the most part that was the employees doing and their motivation was JS leaving.
I see your point but the months of nobody really looking out for the airline left it vulnerable to the takeover groups. United is/was making money with a Temp and OM(on sicklist) supposedly running the show but still underperforming our competitors. It puts the Board in poor light for not living up to their responsibility to the shareholders.
Unfortunately, OM's plan and vision will never come to fruition if the outside group is successful in the Board takeover.
I don't know that we can give credit to Temp and OM for changing direction of the airline. For the most part that was the employees doing and their motivation was JS leaving.
CEOs make the strategic plan which OM has done very well. He identified the biggest problem with United, employee disengagement and has started to fix it.
He got two additional years of pilot labor peace for a pay raise for which 79% voted. He stopped outsourcing IAM jobs and opened their contract up a year early earning their support and accolades for unprecedented negotiations progress. He even has earned the AFA's public support despite them still not having a TA.
He fixed little things like the crappy coffee and big things like the in and out hub flying that has helped to dramatically improve United's operation and customer service metrics. United beat Delta for the first time in years in February. This has all led to improving financial performance though much of the cost-cutting was done on JS's watch.
According to David Faber inside info it appears OM's plan is in little jeopardy. Buffoon et al overplayed their hand and he made an a$$ of himself on CNBC.
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03-12-2016, 05:51 PM
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I see the love affair is still alive. Simple fact is that had OM, the Temp or the Board done what was necessary to protect United from the outsiders, it would not be in play. I don't know, did the Temp have any authority? Did OM's medical condition decrease his ability to do his job at a level consistent with position or did he let his ego drive him to put the airline, it's employees and families in harms way. Was the board to timid in not replacing OM after the severity of his condition was known?
It's not about replacing coffee, or improving employee relations or having one good month against the competition. It's about an outside group that perceives the weakness that the JS replacement caused. Like I've said before, any improvement in moral, customer service or performance improvement is due to JS leaving not OM's arrival.
The unions understand that an outsider takeover will be at the employees expense. The question will be how much damage will current management do trying to correct their past errors of not protecting the airline.
Question : what made the outsiders think United Airlines was easy pickings and put it in play?
It's not about replacing coffee, or improving employee relations or having one good month against the competition. It's about an outside group that perceives the weakness that the JS replacement caused. Like I've said before, any improvement in moral, customer service or performance improvement is due to JS leaving not OM's arrival.
The unions understand that an outsider takeover will be at the employees expense. The question will be how much damage will current management do trying to correct their past errors of not protecting the airline.
Question : what made the outsiders think United Airlines was easy pickings and put it in play?
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03-12-2016, 07:08 PM
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Jeff Smisek was their pawn. Buffoon all but said it. He authorized $3B in share buybacks so they were happy. When he was suddenly ousted they lost control and they want it back. Munoz's heart transplant definitely opened the door, but these hedgies miscalculated badly. They started at 6 seats and did't even have enough clout to get 3 and Buffoon as the Chairman. The word is that Meyer and Munoz are confident they have these folks stymied. Buffoon's CNBC interview was a PR disaster and their motives are completely transparent. Par and Altimeter appear to be way out of their league.
03-12-2016, 07:10 PM
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I see the love affair is still alive. Simple fact is that had OM, the Temp or the Board done what was necessary to protect United from the outsiders, it would not be in play. I don't know, did the Temp have any authority? Did OM's medical condition decrease his ability to do his job at a level consistent with position or did he let his ego drive him to put the airline, it's employees and families in harms way. Was the board to timid in not replacing OM after the severity of his condition was known?
It's not about replacing coffee, or improving employee relations or having one good month against the competition. It's about an outside group that perceives the weakness that the JS replacement caused. Like I've said before, any improvement in moral, customer service or performance improvement is due to JS leaving not OM's arrival.
The unions understand that an outsider takeover will be at the employees expense. The question will be how much damage will current management do trying to correct their past errors of not protecting the airline.
Question : what made the outsiders think United Airlines was easy pickings and put it in play?
It's not about replacing coffee, or improving employee relations or having one good month against the competition. It's about an outside group that perceives the weakness that the JS replacement caused. Like I've said before, any improvement in moral, customer service or performance improvement is due to JS leaving not OM's arrival.
The unions understand that an outsider takeover will be at the employees expense. The question will be how much damage will current management do trying to correct their past errors of not protecting the airline.
Question : what made the outsiders think United Airlines was easy pickings and put it in play?
I don't know if you have a military background. It's pertinent because those of us that served understand how significant a good or bad leader is to overall unit effectiveness. I was in squadrons with good C.O.'s followed by bad and vice versa. It is eye watering how quickly a good CO can bring a squadron together and how quickly things go South when a bad CO steps in.
I really don't get you .. so much bitterness and anger towards all things. I sincerely hope your personal life isn't as dark and frustrated as your posts would imply.
03-12-2016, 07:22 PM
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03-12-2016, 07:40 PM
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Good answer - the employees have done most of the heavy lifting but the money making has nothing to do with a stellar management team. It's the perceived weakness of this management team that has put us in play.
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03-12-2016, 08:13 PM
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