AllenAllert

Would you care to explain some of the dumb... things that JS did without the board calling foul? Yes, they, including OM rubber stamped just about everything coming their way. Guess it was just the path of least resistance.

AllenAllert

Ok then - tell us how involved OM was in the negotiating process with pilots. It's a good place to start by pointing out his involvement then maybe we can all feel good about calling him King.

JoePatroni

Give me an example of something "dumb" Smisek did that the BOD "stamped." You do understand that the BOD generally does not involve themselves in the day to day operation of the company right? If you don't understand that then this is like playing chess with a pigeon.

Flytolive

He personally helped negotiate the final sticking points over the phone.

What is clear from your comments about the BOD, management and Munoz especially him faking a heart attack is that your comments are not reality-based.

AllenAllert

Keep it simple - just how do you know that OM negotiated the final sticking points over the phone?

AllenAllert

Surprised you did ask for a 'Goggle it' or a simple 'Carry On'.

Flytolive

I know people who were at the table and people who know other people at the table. I also know that you don't. What I don't know is why you feel such a need to pretend otherwise especially after the fake heart attack BS. Aren't you embarrassed? Do you have any sense of shame?

AllenAllert

Not embarrassed at all except for you that knows a guy that knew some guys that heard a guy say that OM was involved in the pilot extension. You'll have to understand that most people will roll eye's at your comment.

You keep bringing up the FAKE HEART thing like it's the be all of everything else you claim. Simple fact is that in context it was questionable as to why OM cancelled a big employee summit because of a medical condition after only being on the job for a couple of months. At the time, he was seen walking around with a blood pressure monitor in operations and the condition was likely indigestion. And YES, it appeared to be a manufactured condition and OM was using it to his advantage to gain favor with employees.

I don't believe in coincidence - did OM playing it up for the troops work? With guys like you singing his praise with little or no real results other than lip service then I guess it did.

I like most employees am happy that JS is gone but it's way to soon to claim OM as the SAVIOR. He'll have to earn that.

Flytolive

No, it has nothing to do with me. I keep bringing it us because it is clear evidence that you will state things that you either don't know for a fact or that you are delusional. If you aren't embarrassed by that it explains a lot.

JoePatroni

Still waiting for those facts. Odd that you state that OM "was seen walking around with a BP monitor," but you can't accept someone saying they know someone who was AT the table- not "knew a guy" like you stated. Never, ever saw anyone "walking around with a BP monitor" by the way but I'm sure it happened if you say so.