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Old 04-05-2016, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
Google. Try it.
I think I have a good handle on it and my opinion and knowledge is not clouded with the love fest some of you guys have for OM. He actually got you pretty cheap for the 2 years extension.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:37 PM
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Technically true. When you can't pay the expense they become a debt.
Wrong again.
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
I think I have a good handle on it and my opinion and knowledge is not clouded with the love fest some of you guys have for OM. He actually got you pretty cheap for the 2 years extension.
FYI, he "got" you too. I voted no but carry on again.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
Wrong again.
Now it's really gotten stupid.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
FYI, he "got" you too. I voted no but carry on again.

No, I took the money but did not fall for the love fest. I still don't think he's done anything of substance. Just more lip service and whitewash. Without the outsiders at the door OM would likely not be talking/worrying about contracts.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
Now it's really gotten stupid.
First rule when trying to get out of a hole is to stop digging. Carry on.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
First rule when trying to get out of a hole is to stop digging. Carry on.
Give it a year and then tell us how deep that hole is -
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Old 04-06-2016, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
If nothing else we should applaud the GB group for lighting the fire under OM.

I still don't see anything other than OM protecting himself and the board from the outsiders. It's stil not about rebuilding a strong employee airline - OM is just loading it up with debt to keep the WOLF outside HIS house.
Wrong again, as usual. The IAM negotiations began well BEFORE GB announces his moon beam message.

Only you would be thick enough to applaud GB for these shenanigans. See you on the picket line in BOS? Thought not.
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Old 04-06-2016, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
If nothing else we should applaud the GB group for lighting the fire under OM.
Munoz engaged the employees and unions immediately upon becoming CEO so it was obviously not motivated by PAR & ACE much less Buffoon.

In seven months under Munoz the pilots and dispatchers have overwhelmingly approved contract extensions and the IAM has TAs for its seven groups nine months before the amendable date. These deals cover over half the employees. United has gone to the top of the DOT rankings with Delta and financial performance has improved substantially, closing on Delta. United has also added 4 777-300s, 5 787-9s & 65 737-700s near term orders at discounts up to 75% off the list prices.
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Old 04-06-2016, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
Wrong again, as usual. The IAM negotiations began well BEFORE GB announces his moon beam message.

Only you would be thick enough to applaud GB for these shenanigans. See you on the picket line in BOS? Thought not.
Not wrong at all - just a realist. Look, the IAM like ALPA has signed on to the OM love fest only because he is the 'pig in the poke' and they would rather go for the unknown than the likely known outcome of GB's outside group.

According to your logic - the merger is not complete - so, anything good happening at United is attributed to JS and not OM.
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