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Old 04-05-2016, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
OM is just loading it up with debt to keep the WOLF outside HIS house.
Wrong again, debt has steadily decreased year over year.

UAL United Continental Holdings Inc debt, bond, rates, credit - Morningstar
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
Wrong again, debt has steadily decreased year over year.

UAL United Continental Holdings Inc debt, bond, rates, credit - Morningstar

Keep up Joe - OM has been here what 6-7 months and actually running things for less than 3 maybe 4. So any year over year numbers can't be attributed to OM yet. He's just trying to stay afloat with GB and company at the door. Guess the love feast is still alive.
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
Keep up Joe - OM has been here what 6-7 months and actually running things for less than 3 maybe 4. So any year over year numbers can't be attributed to OM yet. He's just trying to stay afloat with GB and company at the door. Guess the love feast is still alive.
So your claim is based on what then? No lovefest whatsoever but don't let a few facts stand in your way. By the way, the CEO isn't the one who decides to issue new debt....but you knew that.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:04 PM
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So your claim is based on what then? No lovefest whatsoever but don't let a few facts stand in your way. By the way, the CEO isn't the one who decides to issue new debt....but you knew that.
If you had bothered to read my original comment, you'll find my point was that OM is only trying to get contracts done and LOAD the company up with debt. And yes, the contracts are due more to the threat of an outsider takeover than benovenlence on OM part. If OM thought he needed to issue new debt he'd go straight to his yes men on the board to get it done. Surprised he hasn't done a special dividend to get rid of some of the cash we currently have on hand.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:10 PM
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If you had bothered to read my original comment, you'll find my point was that OM is only trying to get contracts done and LOAD the company up with debt. And yes, the contracts are due more to the threat of an outsider takeover than benovenlence on OM part. If OM thought he needed to issue new debt he'd go straight to his yes men on the board to get it done. Surprised he hasn't done a special dividend to get rid of some of the cash we currently have on hand.
So you are claiming that signing a new labor contract will "load" the company up with debt? As far as issuing new debt, you obviously have absolutely no idea what the process involves. Carry on.
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So you are claiming that signing a new labor contract will "load" the company up with debt? As far as issuing new debt, you obviously have absolutely no idea what the process involves. Carry on.
Labor contracts are not a debt. They are an expense. There is a big difference.

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Old 04-05-2016, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
So you are claiming that signing a new labor contract will "load" the company up with debt? As far as issuing new debt, you obviously have absolutely no idea what the process involves. Carry on.

What don't you take the time to inform the forum of the process then?
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by svergin
Labor contracts are not a debt. They are an expense. There is a big difference.

This entire thread is turning stupid.
Please don't cloud the issue with facts.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
What don't you take the time to inform the forum of the process then?
Google. Try it.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by svergin
Labor contracts are not a debt. They are an expense. There is a big difference.

This entire thread is turning stupid.
Technically true. When you can't pay the expense they become a debt.
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