Did OM's respite cause current Board Takeover
03-18-2016, 09:24 AM
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What I understand is that you claimed Oscar Munoz faked a heart attack. Such demonstrably incorrectness is typical of your posts from what I have seen.
when I wrote that OM had been on property for a very short time. Coming from the Board that was looking to minimize the damage from the JS fiasco, he like the others were trying to protect themselves. Given that and the timing, I can understand the impact it would have on his health. Indigestion is often confused with heart problems and that could have very likely been the case. Has OM publicly ackowledged the donor family for the heart he received? Still don't believe in coincidence.
Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt maybe you should heed that advice.
when I wrote that OM had been on property for a very short time. Coming from the Board that was looking to minimize the damage from the JS fiasco, he like the others were trying to protect themselves. Given that and the timing, I can understand the impact it would have on his health. Indigestion is often confused with heart problems and that could have very likely been the case. Has OM publicly ackowledged the donor family for the heart he received? Still don't believe in coincidence.
Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt maybe you should heed that advice.
03-18-2016, 09:37 AM
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C'mon. You post a lot of pure garbage here. I'm sure if OM showed a chest full of stitches you'd be certain it was photoshopped.
03-18-2016, 10:01 AM
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"when I wrote that OM had been on property for a very short time. Coming from the Board that was looking to minimize the damage from the JS fiasco, he like the others were trying to protect themselves. Given that and the timing, I can understand the impact it would have on his health. Indigestion is often confused with heart problems and that could have very likely been the case. Has OM publicly ackowledged the donor family for the heart he received? Still don't believe in coincidence."
I'll leave you this - having a heart attack and going through a heart transplant in such a short time and coming back to work would make him a Superman. Beyond that he's demonstrated no other super powers or skills. You care to point and give reported evidence that OM has done anything to advance United Airlines in the industry. He sat on the board rubber stamping everything JS, GB before him, did and now we should hold him up as the savior. What has OM done..............but protect himself and the board.
03-18-2016, 10:35 AM
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Few people are saying he's already "changed the world". What he has done is change the tone, and having worked in a number of lines of work for many supervisors (and a few who also merit the term leader), that can be a good first step in the right direction. You can't turn a massive ship on a dime, but there seem to be indications that we're steering a new and better course. The simple fact that labor is behind him in this board issue is a far cry from the tone at AA right now for one example.
If you're going to have a coherent argument about his merits or lack thereof, avoiding the repeated accusations (that you kept up for a good while) of a faked or false heart attack, misspelling his name (intentional or not), and rampant speculation would be a good start.
If you're going to have a coherent argument about his merits or lack thereof, avoiding the repeated accusations (that you kept up for a good while) of a faked or false heart attack, misspelling his name (intentional or not), and rampant speculation would be a good start.
03-18-2016, 01:13 PM
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No this is what I said -
"when I wrote that OM had been on property for a very short time. Coming from the Board that was looking to minimize the damage from the JS fiasco, he like the others were trying to protect themselves. Given that and the timing, I can understand the impact it would have on his health. Indigestion is often confused with heart problems and that could have very likely been the case. Has OM publicly ackowledged the donor family for the heart he received? Still don't believe in coincidence."
I'll leave you this - having a heart attack and going through a heart transplant in such a short time and coming back to work would make him a Superman. Beyond that he's demonstrated no other super powers or skills. You care to point and give reported evidence that OM has done anything to advance United Airlines in the industry. He sat on the board rubber stamping everything JS, GB before him, did and now we should hold him up as the savior. What has OM done..............but protect himself and the board.
"when I wrote that OM had been on property for a very short time. Coming from the Board that was looking to minimize the damage from the JS fiasco, he like the others were trying to protect themselves. Given that and the timing, I can understand the impact it would have on his health. Indigestion is often confused with heart problems and that could have very likely been the case. Has OM publicly ackowledged the donor family for the heart he received? Still don't believe in coincidence."
I'll leave you this - having a heart attack and going through a heart transplant in such a short time and coming back to work would make him a Superman. Beyond that he's demonstrated no other super powers or skills. You care to point and give reported evidence that OM has done anything to advance United Airlines in the industry. He sat on the board rubber stamping everything JS, GB before him, did and now we should hold him up as the savior. What has OM done..............but protect himself and the board.
03-18-2016, 01:15 PM
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Few people are saying he's already "changed the world". What he has done is change the tone, and having worked in a number of lines of work for many supervisors (and a few who also merit the term leader), that can be a good first step in the right direction. You can't turn a massive ship on a dime, but there seem to be indications that we're steering a new and better course. The simple fact that labor is behind him in this board issue is a far cry from the tone at AA right now for one example.
If you're going to have a coherent argument about his merits or lack thereof, avoiding the repeated accusations (that you kept up for a good while) of a faked or false heart attack, misspelling his name (intentional or not), and rampant speculation would be a good start.
If you're going to have a coherent argument about his merits or lack thereof, avoiding the repeated accusations (that you kept up for a good while) of a faked or false heart attack, misspelling his name (intentional or not), and rampant speculation would be a good start.
As far as labor being behind OM, it's more a matter of fear of the unknown than the leadership of OM. If you had taken the time to read this and other threads, you'd find that one of the most toxic people to have ever been involved in the airline industry is promoting OM. As a matter of fact, look at all the hounds at the door,(PAR,Altitude and indirectly JS), GB and Lorenzo. Is that an accident, I don't know but it's all the hounds from past CAL management and OM was a board member - draw your own conclusion.
Do tell what OM has done other than lip service. Yes, it's redundant but his record speaks for itself and so far nothing of substance. You seem to be offended about me using OM to reference Oscar Munoz. Before you make it an ethnic thing, I use DH, DA, GB, GT, JS, JH, JP, and BS. I won't put Oscar on a pedestal and he will likely be referred to simply as OM by me and others - Sorry.
I think, I already explained my thoughts on OM's medical condition and the point I've always made was it appears that it was more than indigestion. Timing is another thing but you can read the many other posted on this subject.
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03-18-2016, 01:20 PM
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You must be part of that conservative group that fears the unknown. Are you afraid of the message or just not willing to accept it as a possibility? Apple or Peach is preferred.
03-18-2016, 01:48 PM
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As far as labor being behind OM, it's more a matter of fear of the unknown than the leadership of OM. If you had taken the time to read this and other threads, you'd find that one of the most toxic people to have ever been involved in the airline industry is promoting OM. As a matter of fact, look at all the hounds at the door,(PAR,Altitude and indirectly JS), GB and Lorenzo. Is that an accident, I don't know but it's all the hounds from past CAL management and OM was a board member - draw your own conclusion.
Do tell what OM has done other than lip service. Yes, it's redundant but his record speaks for itself and so far nothing of substance. You seem to be offended about me using OM to reference Oscar Munoz. Before you make it an ethnic thing, I use DH, DA, GB, GT, JS, JH, JP, and BS. I won't put Oscar on a pedestal and he will likely be referred to simply as OM by me and others - Sorry.
I think, I already explained my thoughts on OM's medical condition and the point I've always made was it appears that it was more than indigestion. Timing is another thing but you can read the many other posted on this subject.
If you want action not words in judging OM, then it really shouldn't matter if past (disliked) CEOs have a positive view on him. It's besides the point.
03-18-2016, 02:20 PM
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I'm sure somebody in your family told you - judge a man for what he does not what he says. In Moniz's case, I'm still watching for something to happen.
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