787 orders converted to 737, 777
03-09-2016, 09:13 AM
#41
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Common sense is not common irrespective of brainpower.
03-09-2016, 09:15 AM
#42
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Where to start.
If you're lying to another crew member about whether the aircraft air is on, that's a problem.
If a FA is staring you down to make you flip a switch in the cockpit, that's a problem.
If someone other than the pilots operating that flight flip a switch in the cockpit, that's a problem.
If you're lying to another crew member about whether the aircraft air is on, that's a problem.
If a FA is staring you down to make you flip a switch in the cockpit, that's a problem.
If someone other than the pilots operating that flight flip a switch in the cockpit, that's a problem.
03-09-2016, 10:08 AM
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Using external conditioned ground air simultaneously with aircraft air conditioning packs is prohibited to prevent chattering of the non return valve.
I know we are mainly discussing the 737 here, but that is all the Airbus FM says about it. It may be worded differently in the guppy manuals, but if you can point out to me where it says I can't use the packs with with the external air turned off but the hose still connected, I will bow to your misguided efforts to be a company man.
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03-09-2016, 10:54 AM
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03-09-2016, 11:00 AM
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Holy drift batman!!
Why are we still talking about this? If its hot...
1. Turn on the APU.
2. While youre waiting for the thing to spool up, call ops or go down and turn off the ground/PC air (if its even on).
3. Turn on a pack.
4. Profit in your newfound coolness.
Why are we still talking about this? If its hot...
1. Turn on the APU.
2. While youre waiting for the thing to spool up, call ops or go down and turn off the ground/PC air (if its even on).
3. Turn on a pack.
4. Profit in your newfound coolness.
03-09-2016, 11:02 AM
#47
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That's perfectly legal, but then again, I already said I have done/will do that when appropriate. Your post sounds like it was really just an excuse for a "company man" jab.
03-09-2016, 11:21 AM
#48
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"The Book" says:
Using external conditioned ground air simultaneously with aircraft air conditioning packs is prohibited to prevent chattering of the non return valve.
I know we are mainly discussing the 737 here, but that is all the Airbus FM says about it. It may be worded differently in the guppy manuals, but if you can point out to me where it says I can't use the packs with with the external air turned off but the hose still connected, I will bow to your misguided efforts to be a company man.
Using external conditioned ground air simultaneously with aircraft air conditioning packs is prohibited to prevent chattering of the non return valve.
I know we are mainly discussing the 737 here, but that is all the Airbus FM says about it. It may be worded differently in the guppy manuals, but if you can point out to me where it says I can't use the packs with with the external air turned off but the hose still connected, I will bow to your misguided efforts to be a company man.
03-09-2016, 11:27 AM
#49
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It's that simple. Jetway air is easy to shut down, some of the remote carts not so much.
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