Second narrow-body order
02-22-2016, 04:42 PM
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they can order as many e2s, cs100s, or any aircraft they choose, as long as we fly them. However, if they want more 76 seaters to be flown by express, they have to order a nsnb...defined specifically in the upa. And a 737 is not a nsnb. Iow, this 737 order changes nothing in our scope clause.
02-22-2016, 05:07 PM
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They can order as many E2s, CS100s, or ANY aircraft they choose, as long as we fly them. However, if they want more 76 seaters to be flown by Express, they HAVE to order a NSNB...defined specifically in the UPA. And a 737 is NOT a NSNB. IOW, this 737 order changes nothing in our scope clause.
02-22-2016, 05:27 PM
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Last year, and projected for this year, hiring was far in excess of attrition from retirements....by about 500-600 pilots, each year, more than retirements.
I think this has been in the works for a while.
I think this has been in the works for a while.
02-22-2016, 05:49 PM
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Makes me wonder if we're positioning to focus more and more on domestic and slow the growth of international, ceding it to Emirates and others whose government-subsidized airlines are growing by leaps and bounds. Fighting this is ALPA's top priority but maybe the company sees writing on the wall.
02-22-2016, 06:37 PM
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With their state subsidies, their internal company costs are cents to our dollars. We wouldn't hold up for long. When the polished cabin service is added in, the disparity becomes even more pronounced.
However "fair" or "unfair," the market always wins. It is unlikely to be held off for very long.
02-22-2016, 07:33 PM
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Payments for these jets are likely going to be very cheap, and a comparative bargain vs. leasing. Big question in my mind is how many narrowbodies are coming off lease in the next couple of years and how many of those leases will be renewed. Then we'll have a better idea of how much growth this really represents.
02-22-2016, 09:46 PM
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More A319's and B737-700's
We're modifying the first of the A319's from China.. Could be up to 25 that I've heard coming with the Nose Numbers of 48XX All are A319-132's with the V2527 engine.
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