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03-08-2016, 07:57 PM
#63
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There were 2007 hires on furlough in 2010. Certainly not exactly "mid level 757 FOs". And if by some chance they were on the 757 it was because no one senior to them wanted it and they'd rather hold a line on the 737 (aka guppy) as an FO.
03-08-2016, 08:34 PM
#64
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03-08-2016, 09:04 PM
#65
Don't say Guppy
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Your memory is not what it should be. You want to tell us the story of you flying with a pilot from the Tracy Ace Group in the 90's on the 757? Maybe you should tell us how all 570's are Scabs again. Both were explained to you in prior threads - do a search. Flipping burgers, I can see you doing that but you should learn your United Airlines History and maybe read 'Flying the Line'. Put some effort in ---
And you DID cross the picket line in 85.
03-09-2016, 06:36 AM
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Here - Flying the Line
Volume I
http://www3.alpa.org/publications/Fl...The_Line_1.pdf
Volume II
http://www3.alpa.org/publications/Fl...he_Line_II.pdf
I know you're not likely to put the work in to learn the history but maybe some new hires will and understand the truth instead of your babble. If you did, in fact, fly with a Tracy Ace Group pilot and knowing you are a meticulous record keeper give us that pilots hire date. Many seniority list from that period are available but keep in mind that everybody has access to those same list. I should have just copied/pasted from the old threads on this forum disproving your unsubstantiated claims. Many on this forum are tired of correcting you on these issues but press on if it keeps the little world rotating.
03-09-2016, 07:38 AM
#67
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"I did fly with a Tracy's Ace in the beginning of 97. He was my LCA on the 757."
????
He or she must have been a relative of Tracy and not the group hired during the Great War and trained in Tracy, CA.
The last true "Tracy Ace" would have retired before the strike of 1985. I had the "opportunity" jump seat on a DC-10 with one of the last ones here in 1979.
Maybe you're talking about another group?
????
He or she must have been a relative of Tracy and not the group hired during the Great War and trained in Tracy, CA.
The last true "Tracy Ace" would have retired before the strike of 1985. I had the "opportunity" jump seat on a DC-10 with one of the last ones here in 1979.
Maybe you're talking about another group?
03-09-2016, 02:07 PM
#68
Don't say Guppy
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"I did fly with a Tracy's Ace in the beginning of 97. He was my LCA on the 757."
????
He or she must have been a relative of Tracy and not the group hired during the Great War and trained in Tracy, CA.
The last true "Tracy Ace" would have retired before the strike of 1985. I had the "opportunity" jump seat on a DC-10 with one of the last ones here in 1979.
Maybe you're talking about another group?
????
He or she must have been a relative of Tracy and not the group hired during the Great War and trained in Tracy, CA.
The last true "Tracy Ace" would have retired before the strike of 1985. I had the "opportunity" jump seat on a DC-10 with one of the last ones here in 1979.
Maybe you're talking about another group?
03-09-2016, 03:07 PM
#69
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The late 60s no-timers were hired with a private pilot license and had to get a commercial and instrument license over at Clinton Aviation at the old Stapelton Airport before they started DC-6, 7 F/E school.
Many did not have multi engine ratings as a F/O until the 80s because at the time the FAA did not require a formal M/E for 121 carriers.
For those in love with Dubinski he was 21 years old when hired and was one of those no or low timers.
The Tracy guys trained in Tracy, CA flew Boeing 247s as Captain in their 20s and retired as DC 8, 747 and DC 10 Captains.
Many did not have multi engine ratings as a F/O until the 80s because at the time the FAA did not require a formal M/E for 121 carriers.
For those in love with Dubinski he was 21 years old when hired and was one of those no or low timers.
The Tracy guys trained in Tracy, CA flew Boeing 247s as Captain in their 20s and retired as DC 8, 747 and DC 10 Captains.
03-09-2016, 05:05 PM
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The late 60s no-timers were hired with a private pilot license and had to get a commercial and instrument license over at Clinton Aviation at the old Stapelton Airport before they started DC-6, 7 F/E school.
Many did not have multi engine ratings as a F/O until the 80s because at the time the FAA did not require a formal M/E for 121 carriers.
For those in love with Dubinski he was 21 years old when hired and was one of those no or low timers.
The Tracy guys trained in Tracy, CA flew Boeing 247s as Captain in their 20s and retired as DC 8, 747 and DC 10 Captains.
Many did not have multi engine ratings as a F/O until the 80s because at the time the FAA did not require a formal M/E for 121 carriers.
For those in love with Dubinski he was 21 years old when hired and was one of those no or low timers.
The Tracy guys trained in Tracy, CA flew Boeing 247s as Captain in their 20s and retired as DC 8, 747 and DC 10 Captains.
Ok Probe, the Regularguy explanation of the Tracy Aces is spot on and almost a mirror of the other explanations to you about this. Unless you have an agenda to disrespect the pilots of Tracy or pilots hired in the sixties with a Private License, it should be enough. I know the first time you posted about the Tracy Aces if had a disrespectful overtone. It doesn't matter that you were wrong but it does matter when you continue repeating it knowing you're wrong. All Tracy pilots have retired and if not mistaken all 1960's hires have retired.
Now to your claim that the group of 570 are Scabs and crossed a picket line would you like to try and explain that statement away?
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