New Vacancy 16-05V posted
03-27-2016, 02:07 PM
#141
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There's currently over 12,000 on the seniority list
03-27-2016, 02:38 PM
#142
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There is over 12,500 pilots on the seniority list.
03-27-2016, 03:26 PM
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The truth is no flight was ever cancelled for a "chart light." That is unless the "chart light" was MEL required for the operation of the airplane.
So yes the BS flag is really big and if the flight was cancelled then the so called "Flight Manager" was advocating departing in violation of FARs and the design certification of the airplane. If the story is true the "Flight Manager" should be disciplined for such behavior.
Yep there's more than one spin on such stories.
Of course another spin is the Captain can always refuse something which he or she determines is not within their judgment as "safe" regardless of the MEL. But, they will have to back up what they do and are responsible for the result. There's more to this story than some FMs comment.
So yes the BS flag is really big and if the flight was cancelled then the so called "Flight Manager" was advocating departing in violation of FARs and the design certification of the airplane. If the story is true the "Flight Manager" should be disciplined for such behavior.
Yep there's more than one spin on such stories.
Of course another spin is the Captain can always refuse something which he or she determines is not within their judgment as "safe" regardless of the MEL. But, they will have to back up what they do and are responsible for the result. There's more to this story than some FMs comment.
If I knew it was a required item I would just tell the MX guy to go get one figured out and have it replaced as soon as practical. No way would a sane individual down a million dollar flight for a 89 cent light bulb.
03-27-2016, 07:44 PM
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Prior to the merger it was not uncommon for new hires to be non-vols to Guam. The merger added 6500 pilots who had never had a chance at it so it quickly went senior. $36,000 per year isn't too shabby either.
"B-1 Pilots staffed to flying positions in the Guam Base shall receive, in addition to all other compensation, a Foreign Base Allowance in the amount of $3,000 per month for each month of Active Service."
This also sweetened the pot significantly for new hires,
"B-1-b At his option, a Pilot assigned to Guam who is in his first year of employment shall receive an eighteen (18) month Base freeze and be paid using the second-year pay rate (in Status), or no Base freeze and be paid using the first-year pay rate."
Adding it up, $118,000 isn't bad for one's first of employment at a major if you can swing it.
"B-1 Pilots staffed to flying positions in the Guam Base shall receive, in addition to all other compensation, a Foreign Base Allowance in the amount of $3,000 per month for each month of Active Service."
This also sweetened the pot significantly for new hires,
"B-1-b At his option, a Pilot assigned to Guam who is in his first year of employment shall receive an eighteen (18) month Base freeze and be paid using the second-year pay rate (in Status), or no Base freeze and be paid using the first-year pay rate."
Adding it up, $118,000 isn't bad for one's first of employment at a major if you can swing it.
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03-28-2016, 04:27 AM
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Just to illustrate this a little better, this last vacancy bid was the first to post GUM openings in over a year. 737 FO went senior to some narrow body captain slots in the snapshots.
03-28-2016, 11:51 AM
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Guam is an acquired taste.
Some people bid it - love it - and never leave, ever.
Some (very very few) want to try it for a while (6-18 months) and then bid out as a once in a career opportunity to try something different.
Others try to leave as soon as the get there.
In these cases, there is no trend, however vacancies in Guam are usually very far in between openings unless they announce a new route/s. Thereby resulting, traditionally, in a very senior base.
Some people bid it - love it - and never leave, ever.
Some (very very few) want to try it for a while (6-18 months) and then bid out as a once in a career opportunity to try something different.
Others try to leave as soon as the get there.
In these cases, there is no trend, however vacancies in Guam are usually very far in between openings unless they announce a new route/s. Thereby resulting, traditionally, in a very senior base.
03-28-2016, 02:26 PM
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From a couple of sources (knowledgeable folks that deal with management), got two seemingly corroborating pieces of data:
1. Total fleet strength will grow to over 800 by year's end. (Current count, from what I could find, is 727).
2. Using all announced deliveries and retirements over the next 3 years, it grows to 954 airplanes. Keep in mind, I said "announced." (I'd be surpised if there weren't more retirements).
3. Was told in a "formal setting" that total pilot count was expected to be 15,000 "end game," although the date was not mentioned. I viewed this with pleasant surprise, but a lot of skepticism.
But, if we are really growing the aircraft count to 800+, or being a pessimist and reducing that 954 to 850, then yes, the pilot group is going to grow by as much as 20% (for a round number).
03-28-2016, 05:11 PM
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03-28-2016, 10:41 PM
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The current seniority list is about 12,000, last I looked, with about 11,200 active pilots. (This was some months ago).
From a couple of sources (knowledgeable folks that deal with management), got two seemingly corroborating pieces of data:
1. Total fleet strength will grow to over 800 by year's end. (Current count, from what I could find, is 727).
2. Using all announced deliveries and retirements over the next 3 years, it grows to 954 airplanes. Keep in mind, I said "announced." (I'd be surpised if there weren't more retirements).
3. Was told in a "formal setting" that total pilot count was expected to be 15,000 "end game," although the date was not mentioned. I viewed this with pleasant surprise, but a lot of skepticism.
But, if we are really growing the aircraft count to 800+, or being a pessimist and reducing that 954 to 850, then yes, the pilot group is going to grow by as much as 20% (for a round number).
From a couple of sources (knowledgeable folks that deal with management), got two seemingly corroborating pieces of data:
1. Total fleet strength will grow to over 800 by year's end. (Current count, from what I could find, is 727).
2. Using all announced deliveries and retirements over the next 3 years, it grows to 954 airplanes. Keep in mind, I said "announced." (I'd be surpised if there weren't more retirements).
3. Was told in a "formal setting" that total pilot count was expected to be 15,000 "end game," although the date was not mentioned. I viewed this with pleasant surprise, but a lot of skepticism.
But, if we are really growing the aircraft count to 800+, or being a pessimist and reducing that 954 to 850, then yes, the pilot group is going to grow by as much as 20% (for a round number).
April 2016 headcount per the latest SSC monthly update is 12206 (10916 active)
Hate to burst the bubble but we aren't going to grow that fast. Are we growing? No doubt. Always a good thing.
2015 ended with 713 aircraft. +23 net mainline aircraft in 2016 brings it to 738 total.
Company Overview ? United Continental Holdings, Inc.
2017 sees the balance of the 13 777-300ers delivered in the first 6 months plus the few 787-9's as part of the conversion of orders brought forward and the beginning of the "new" 737-700's being delivered in addition to whatever additional used A319's may be sourced. So even reaching 800 aircraft by end of 2017 will be ambitious. My guess would be somewhere around 770 total mainline.
The 737 Max9 deliveries are scheduled to begin in 2018 as are the 787-10 and A350-1000 deliveries, offset by the 747 retirements and whatever any other aircraft that aren't needed anymore.
All depends on the economy (and successful aircraft certification) if the plan sticks or gets changed.
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