New Vacancy 16-05V posted
03-11-2016, 06:13 AM
#91
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Good trend going of 1/2 to 1/3 of new CAs on narrow bodies upgrading from FO.
upgrade to CA FO/CA
IAH320 6/12
ORD320 14/6
ORD 737 1/3
SFO320 9/6
SFO320(SUP) 9/1
FOs in the 12000s getting into IAH 737. ORD and SFO 756 almost as junior as 737 within 200 generally. As always EWR, LAX, and SFO easy to get for just about any FO narrow body. ORD and IAH only slightly less so. SFO 320CA went in mid 9000s.
Under 3 years and could get to Denver on 737 last bid and this bid. Mid 11s got it. Could have bid 777in DCA or 787 in SFO last bid. Not this time.
Not bad to pretty good.
Congrats to all.
upgrade to CA FO/CA
IAH320 6/12
ORD320 14/6
ORD 737 1/3
SFO320 9/6
SFO320(SUP) 9/1
FOs in the 12000s getting into IAH 737. ORD and SFO 756 almost as junior as 737 within 200 generally. As always EWR, LAX, and SFO easy to get for just about any FO narrow body. ORD and IAH only slightly less so. SFO 320CA went in mid 9000s.
Under 3 years and could get to Denver on 737 last bid and this bid. Mid 11s got it. Could have bid 777in DCA or 787 in SFO last bid. Not this time.
Not bad to pretty good.
Congrats to all.
03-11-2016, 06:40 AM
#92
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Not sure I understand. Upgrading from FO as opposed to what? Are you saying FO of the same jet or just FO in general?
03-11-2016, 07:02 AM
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Looks like we are generally through SLI and base alignment impact on bidding. But am pretty sure that point could be argued. Just looking for trends and willing to accept other views.
03-11-2016, 08:55 AM
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You're supporting an argument against 30 year Captains based on a junior dispatcher from cal express who says he can't believe they were not fired? Has the dispatcher ever heard of Captain's authority?
I can only attest to my experiences. They do not resemble what you describe.
I can only attest to my experiences. They do not resemble what you describe.
03-11-2016, 09:14 AM
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A few bad apples will upset the cart. That's where the dispatcher is coming from. I flew with a Fleet Manager (pin wearing btw) a little while back. Told me he completely agrees with capt authority, but that sometimes he has to roll his eyes. Related to me that a long haul flight had recently cancelled cause the skipper's chart light was inop and was thus refused. Guess the fleet? Hint hint it's getting parked for realibilty issues.
We are painting with too broad a brush. Between our two legacy groups we all know about that and how it ends up.
03-12-2016, 06:47 AM
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A few bad apples will upset the cart. That's where the dispatcher is coming from. I flew with a Fleet Manager (pin wearing btw) a little while back. Told me he completely agrees with capt authority, but that sometimes he has to roll his eyes. Related to me that a long haul flight had recently cancelled cause the skipper's chart light was inop and was thus refused. Guess the fleet? Hint hint it's getting parked for realibilty issues.
type. Why would a Fleet Manager say something like this to increase his creditable with the line pilot?
not logical
03-12-2016, 07:31 AM
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The truth is no flight was ever cancelled for a "chart light." That is unless the "chart light" was MEL required for the operation of the airplane.
So yes the BS flag is really big and if the flight was cancelled then the so called "Flight Manager" was advocating departing in violation of FARs and the design certification of the airplane. If the story is true the "Flight Manager" should be disciplined for such behavior.
Yep there's more than one spin on such stories.
Of course another spin is the Captain can always refuse something which he or she determines is not within their judgment as "safe" regardless of the MEL. But, they will have to back up what they do and are responsible for the result. There's more to this story than some FMs comment.
So yes the BS flag is really big and if the flight was cancelled then the so called "Flight Manager" was advocating departing in violation of FARs and the design certification of the airplane. If the story is true the "Flight Manager" should be disciplined for such behavior.
Yep there's more than one spin on such stories.
Of course another spin is the Captain can always refuse something which he or she determines is not within their judgment as "safe" regardless of the MEL. But, they will have to back up what they do and are responsible for the result. There's more to this story than some FMs comment.
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