Probe

Staller is the mythical online name of a bit of a DB who came on here as "Staller". In the 4 years I have been watching this he has been kicked off at least 3 times. Maybe more. He gets himself so worked up, he can't help himself. He went by "Carolsdanger" for a while. I can't remember the rest of the names. He keeps coming back for more, under new names.

Currently, he goes by AllenAlert.

cadetdrivr

Funny thing: per the merger policy it's actually not the role of the MEC (or the MC) to "fight" for the SLI other than appointing a competent and autonomous merger committee to represent their pilots in the SLI.

It's sad that the amateurs at the top of CALAPLA actually thought that they were "fighting" for their pilots by their actions despite the fact that their economic shenanigans were all worthless as they occurred after the effective date of the merger. (Specifically, certain pay band groupings and LOA 25.)

And here we are in 2016 finally cleaning up the mess that had ZERO effect on the SLI and has caused enormous harm and disunity to the entire group.

That's what's wrong.

(We should all keep this in mind for the next inevitable (IMHO) merger.)

svergin

1st of all, virtually everyone voted for the cash. Beyond that, we don't know how the vote was among legacy pilots, but we do know how the MEC voted. 8-1 LCAL and 5-6 LUAL.

So for whatever that's worth.

Lerxst

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Council 5 (NYC)
Participation: 88%
In Favor: 74.6%

Council 11 (DCA)
Participation: 89%
In Favor: 78.9%

Council 12 (ORD)
Participation: 92%
In Favor: 73.2%

Council 33 (DEN)
Participation: 91%
In Favor: 85.9%

Council 34 (SFO)
Participation: 89%
In Favor: 79.9%

Council 57 (LAX)
Participation: 89%
In Favor: 73.4%

Council 93 (DENTK)
Participation: 91%
In Favor: 96.4%

Council 171 (IAH)
Participation: 86%
In Favor: 83.5%

Council 172 (CLE)
Participation: 86%
In Favor: 81.1%

Council 173 (GUM)
Participation: 86%
In Favor: 73.5%

Council 178 (IAHTC)
Participation: 91%
In Favor: 95.1%

Total
Participation: 90.94%
In Favor: 79%

ugleeual

This from the last vote on TA? Where did you find it?

Old UCAL CA

Having done this a number of times in the past, this breakdown should tell council memberships a great deal about the people they have elected.

Clearly, there are a number of reps who attempted to "protect" pilots from making a decision themselves. That "protection" usually centers around their own personal preferences rather than membership preferences or data. Unfortunately, it has been that way for many years.

Congrats to all. Now get on with the business of continuing to improve and make United a great airline.

ugleeual

I agree with you 100%… just like in normal politics some of our representatives apparently think they know whats better for us than we do… this vote summary should open some eyes… has for me.

jsled

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C12 and C34 members should run their reps out on a rail! WOW. Totally out of touch. Denver 86% YES....yeah baby! Makes me proud.

Scott Stoops

Agree. Well stated.

svergin,

You have stated that you're happy that Ual parked a fleet and furloughed pilots because your sli outcome was enhanced. That you actually wrote that amazes me. Then you wonder why I think that the current pay banding was not only a horrible idea but also that it made our contract worse for everyone and did nothing to improve your position. You've clearly lost sight of the big picture on how badly calpa hurt our collective pilot group in those instances. That said, it passed, and we will all live with it.

I, on the other hand, am glad that calpa brought their gradeschool crayon drawing version of an sli to the table. It made for a better outcome for many of the lual furloughed pilots. Just a different perspective. Hopefully we can all get past this and unite. It just doesn't seem likely.

Knotcher

Oh yea, the constant finger pointing really helps...