United Now in 3rd Place?
01-21-2016, 11:55 AM
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United Now in 3rd Place?
According to the article, even though United is still in 3rd place, the number of passengers carried/flown seem very low versus revenue passenger miles (RPM). Does this mean our planes are more empty with lower load factors?
[U]Passengers flown vs. revenue passenger miles (RPM)[/U]
1. American: 201.2 million vs. 223 billion revenue passenger miles (RPM)
2. Delta: 179.4 million vs. 209.6 billion
3. Southwest: 144.6 million vs. 117.5 billion
4. United: 140.4 million vs. 208.6 billion
Alarming to say the least (if that is the case
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http://consumerist.com/2016/01/12/de...ot-by-traffic/
[U]Passengers flown vs. revenue passenger miles (RPM)[/U]
1. American: 201.2 million vs. 223 billion revenue passenger miles (RPM)
2. Delta: 179.4 million vs. 209.6 billion
3. Southwest: 144.6 million vs. 117.5 billion
4. United: 140.4 million vs. 208.6 billion
Alarming to say the least (if that is the case
(http://consumerist.com/2016/01/12/de...ot-by-traffic/
01-21-2016, 04:57 PM
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Thanks for the insight! The difference in passengers AA and DAL carries still seem like ALOT. More surprising that LUV even carried more passengers than United. Obviously the revenue numbers work out because in that area the Big 3 are all around the $40 billion annual revenue mark plus/minus a couple billion.
01-21-2016, 05:09 PM
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Passengers carried is the total number of passengers carried.
Revenue Passenger mile is one passenger, carried one mile.
Available seat miles is one seat (empty or not) carried one mile.
01-21-2016, 05:39 PM
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The numbers work out the way they do because of United Express.
United has been crushed in revenue lately because they fly RJs from major cities to their hubs domestically, where AA and DL all fly mainline.
When it comes to International, United has the big metal. However, ever since United cut their domestic mainline feed and replaced it with RJs, UA has been playing catch-up.
United has way more RJ flying than its competitors, and its only now that UA management is realizing it is hurting us.
United has been crushed in revenue lately because they fly RJs from major cities to their hubs domestically, where AA and DL all fly mainline.
When it comes to International, United has the big metal. However, ever since United cut their domestic mainline feed and replaced it with RJs, UA has been playing catch-up.
United has way more RJ flying than its competitors, and its only now that UA management is realizing it is hurting us.
01-22-2016, 08:22 AM
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The numbers work out the way they do because of United Express.
United has been crushed in revenue lately because they fly RJs from major cities to their hubs domestically, where AA and DL all fly mainline.
When it comes to International, United has the big metal. However, ever since United cut their domestic mainline feed and replaced it with RJs, UA has been playing catch-up.
United has way more RJ flying than its competitors, and its only now that UA management is realizing it is hurting us.
United has been crushed in revenue lately because they fly RJs from major cities to their hubs domestically, where AA and DL all fly mainline.
When it comes to International, United has the big metal. However, ever since United cut their domestic mainline feed and replaced it with RJs, UA has been playing catch-up.
United has way more RJ flying than its competitors, and its only now that UA management is realizing it is hurting us.
01-22-2016, 10:00 AM
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UAL mainline/regional/ Consolidated. Available seat miles (millions)
219,989 +2.7% / 30,014 (6.0)/ 250,003 +1.6
Delta:
220,429 +4% / 26,335/ 246,764 +3%
Delta didn't break out regional, just reported mainline and consolidated, so I did the math myself.
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