Mgt view of 757 vs 737-900
01-19-2016, 09:27 AM
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Oh, I'm sure that Training Bulletin will be pushed to your Ipad at least 12 hours prior to you having to proficiently perform said maneuver in the stimulator!
01-19-2016, 11:16 AM
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01-19-2016, 12:12 PM
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Yes, but nobody has actually seen one in the simulator yet and I would hope that some training takes place before that becomes an authorized procedure.
Just like the Flaps 25 takeoffs that appeared with Sabre, I would like the opportunity to fly a few V1 cuts in the sim to get a feel for what an older -800 that has full LE devices extended vs a newer one that has only partial LED's.
Just like the Flaps 25 takeoffs that appeared with Sabre, I would like the opportunity to fly a few V1 cuts in the sim to get a feel for what an older -800 that has full LE devices extended vs a newer one that has only partial LED's.
01-19-2016, 12:49 PM
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Yes, but nobody has actually seen one in the simulator yet and I would hope that some training takes place before that becomes an authorized procedure.
Just like the Flaps 25 takeoffs that appeared with Sabre, I would like the opportunity to fly a few V1 cuts in the sim to get a feel for what an older -800 that has full LE devices extended vs a newer one that has only partial LED's.
Just like the Flaps 25 takeoffs that appeared with Sabre, I would like the opportunity to fly a few V1 cuts in the sim to get a feel for what an older -800 that has full LE devices extended vs a newer one that has only partial LED's.
01-19-2016, 01:05 PM
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I had a PC last month and got signed off for the Flaps 5 GA. It was pretty much a non-event, I almost couldn't tell the difference. We'll all get it as we cycle through, and then it will be authorized.
01-19-2016, 01:24 PM
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Thats good to hear, must be a recent (or spotty) thing cause the few guys I know that have gone in the past few months did not see it.
01-19-2016, 01:40 PM
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Yes, but nobody has actually seen one in the simulator yet and I would hope that some training takes place before that becomes an authorized procedure.
Just like the Flaps 25 takeoffs that appeared with Sabre, I would like the opportunity to fly a few V1 cuts in the sim to get a feel for what an older -800 that has full LE devices extended vs a newer one that has only partial LED's.
Just like the Flaps 25 takeoffs that appeared with Sabre, I would like the opportunity to fly a few V1 cuts in the sim to get a feel for what an older -800 that has full LE devices extended vs a newer one that has only partial LED's.
01-19-2016, 01:55 PM
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Years ago after we put an MD-80 off the end of LGA runway when it was snowy and icy, the knee jerks then mandated flap 23 ( then 22) takeoffs when it was even wet.
I refused, because that 2 engine lawn dart with all the aluminum hanging down on a V1 loss would be an uncertain future.
On my next PC I asked the CA to give me a V! cut at 130,000 lbs at LGA on a cold day. It crashed twice. The check airman tried it with the same result!
When I told the MD-80 Chief Pilot about it his eyes got big and promised to check it out.. A month later he snagged me and told me it was okay, because the sim had be re-programmed! He nearly soiled himself when I asked if all the PC's from the last year were invalid because obviously the sim had been out of limits
01-19-2016, 02:41 PM
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We did it after our CQLOE in November. Wasn't bad. Plenty of time to get the flap lever into the "5" detent as the flaps slowly retract from 30.
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