Mgt view of 757 vs 737-900
01-19-2016, 05:14 AM
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Pilot Bullentin 15-208 states that we are moving towards not having to run the APU inflight. It's simple data collection and then paying Boeing to approve the program. Also the 757-200 (the ones that are staying) only has 169 pax the 737-900ER has 179. Offering 5.6% more seats at 20% lower cost.
On a side note I did not enjoy flying the 737. I think Airbus offers a better product:both upfront and in the back. I think the Max9 is a huge mistake. I enjoy flying the 757/767 greatly. 767-300 is probably the easiest and most enjoyable airplane I have ever flown. I think Boeing could do much better if they rid themselves of the 1960 design and moved on to a modern efficient and comfortable design.
Pilot Bullentin 15-208 states that we are moving towards not having to run the APU inflight. It's simple data collection and then paying Boeing to approve the program. Also the 757-200 (the ones that are staying) only has 169 pax the 737-900ER has 179. Offering 5.6% more seats at 20% lower cost.
On a side note I did not enjoy flying the 737. I think Airbus offers a better product:both upfront and in the back. I think the Max9 is a huge mistake. I enjoy flying the 757/767 greatly. 767-300 is probably the easiest and most enjoyable airplane I have ever flown. I think Boeing could do much better if they rid themselves of the 1960 design and moved on to a modern efficient and comfortable design.
A Legacy UAL 757 seats 182 (24/158 without slimlines) Delta has/is putting 199 seats in their 757's If UAL were to do the same, how does that change the CASM numbers even with the cabin refurb and longevity mx updates required? The fact that we parked ETOPS birds, for the Hawaii markets that require the performance, still boggles my mind.
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01-19-2016, 08:24 AM
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There are only 12 or so straight -900s
01-19-2016, 08:39 AM
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Happened to me at least 4-5 times over 2 winter seasons where we were weight restricted (all on 900ER) leaving pax behind. Once we left 20 pax at the gate SEA - DEN. Many of the Captains I flew with during that period were very familiar and had seen it before. So YES it is a problem on the 900/900ER!!!! hopefully the new procedure for the 900ER will greatly alleviate this problem.
01-19-2016, 08:40 AM
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Huge difference between the performance of the 2. HUGE. You wouldn't believe how much runway the 900 chews up
01-19-2016, 09:01 AM
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FedEx in particular sis pending a lot of money on old used planes. The ones without winglets, get them, all new cockpit, and D checks with overhauled engines. That costs a pretty penny, probably not too much less than the cost of a new guppy. Oh, and a shiny new paint job to boot.
01-19-2016, 09:19 AM
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Happened to me at least 4-5 times over 2 winter seasons where we were weight restricted (all on 900ER) leaving pax behind. Once we left 20 pax at the gate SEA - DEN. Many of the Captains I flew with during that period were very familiar and had seen it before. So YES it is a problem on the 900/900ER!!!! hopefully the new procedure for the 900ER will greatly alleviate this problem.
My point is that the sky isn't falling. I've flown the -900ER fully loaded many times over the number of times that I've seen it weight restricted. It's a greatly overblown concern.
And I fly the 757/767 now. I'm hardly a guppy cheerleader. Just telling you what I saw first hand.
01-19-2016, 09:39 AM
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My concern with this accumulated ice penalty busting, soon-to-be-announced flaps 5 go-around procedure change is that Boeing put gates at 1 and 15 on the flap selector for a very good reason... 5 doesn't have one. Hunting for, and missing, that flap on a dark and stormy go-around will quickly lead to a seriously undesired acft state.
01-19-2016, 09:49 AM
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Well, the "ER" moniker at the end sure doesn't mean "Extra Roomy"
My concern with this accumulated ice penalty busting, soon-to-be-announced flaps 5 go-around procedure change is that Boeing put gates at 1 and 15 on the flap selector for a very good reason... 5 doesn't have one. Hunting for, and missing, that flap on a dark and stormy go-around will quickly lead to a seriously undesired acft state.
My concern with this accumulated ice penalty busting, soon-to-be-announced flaps 5 go-around procedure change is that Boeing put gates at 1 and 15 on the flap selector for a very good reason... 5 doesn't have one. Hunting for, and missing, that flap on a dark and stormy go-around will quickly lead to a seriously undesired acft state.
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