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Old 12-08-2016, 06:35 AM
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So, pilot A is on reserve because he is either a new hire, bad luck, or bad personal choice to commute to reserve. Then, he demands that ALPO negotiate changes to reserve that makes sitting reserve 1000 miles from base a better deal than flying a line.

Then, pilot A is still torqued off. Why? Pilot A is now "forced" into a line because the senior guys bid reserve because they get to sit at home on reserve.

Sorry, won't happen.

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Old 12-08-2016, 06:38 AM
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I only feel sorry for pilots on RSV who are new hires and don't have a choice... other than that anyone who bids into fleet/seat/domicile that is near or below the G-Line has only himself/herself to blame. I'm on RSV now by choice... RSV could use some improvements but its not as bad as people make out... normally complainers live outside SC callout range.
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Old 12-08-2016, 06:52 AM
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The "elephant in the room" that the whiners are not mentioning, is the 10 am earliest show for the 1st day of reserve. That gives most commuters to reserve 3-4 extra nights at home. We spent zero dollars negotiating that, it was a result of our contract, integrating with FAR 117.

ANY improvement to reserve, I guarantee, will be contingent on getting rid of that provision. How many of you that don't like our current system would trade that away, and for what?

Our current contract extension pushed the decision on that provision 2 years into the future, before it goes away. It will go away because 70% of us won't pay for it, including me who bids reserve half the time.
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Old 12-08-2016, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Probe
The "elephant in the room" that the whiners are not mentioning, is the 10 am earliest show for the 1st day of reserve. That gives most commuters to reserve 3-4 extra nights at home. We spent zero dollars negotiating that, it was a result of our contract, integrating with FAR 117.

ANY improvement to reserve, I guarantee, will be contingent on getting rid of that provision. How many of you that don't like our current system would trade that away, and for what?

Our current contract extension pushed the decision on that provision 2 years into the future, before it goes away. It will go away because 70% of us won't pay for it, including me who bids reserve half the time.
Yes, that 10am report time after days off makes a huge difference to a commuting reserve pilot. But if I could, I'd like to back up to my prior comment about analyzing the SC's being built by the crew desk. I would suggest a Scheduling Committee person be appointed to monitor SC's. Designing a computer program to dump all SC's into a spread sheet which would compare SC to actual use. My suggestions is to separate those SC that were used within the 2.5 hour call-out vs those that were released and assigned a trip between 10 or more hours after release. The whole purpose of which, is to "lift up the stone and shine a light on SC assignment building". This might help the negotiating team put pay provisions on those SC's that were released and assigned trips 10-12 hours after being released. In other words, building SC's by the crew desk would moved from an exercise of convenience to that of a cost to be tracked by the company bean counters who would be inclined to stop the practice because many SC's are UNNECESSARY.
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
I wasn't advocating this...just trying to clarify for Krudawg how there wouldn't really be reserve lines anymore. Company putting crews in hotels isn't a far fetched idea. I worked at Evergreen during the furlough and that spiteful old man would park us at the 5 Towns in JFK for days on end waiting for a 747 that may or may not arrive.
Yeah but all that poundcake made up for it I presume.
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Old 12-08-2016, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by myoface
Yeah but all that poundcake made up for it I presume.
Gross.....never touched the stuff
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Old 12-08-2016, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by krudawg
Yes, that 10am report time after days off makes a huge difference to a commuting reserve pilot. But if I could, I'd like to back up to my prior comment about analyzing the SC's being built by the crew desk. I would suggest a Scheduling Committee person be appointed to monitor SC's. Designing a computer program to dump all SC's into a spread sheet which would compare SC to actual use. My suggestions is to separate those SC that were used within the 2.5 hour call-out vs those that were released and assigned a trip between 10 or more hours after release. The whole purpose of which, is to "lift up the stone and shine a light on SC assignment building". This might help the negotiating team put pay provisions on those SC's that were released and assigned trips 10-12 hours after being released. In other words, building SC's by the crew desk would moved from an exercise of convenience to that of a cost to be tracked by the company bean counters who would be inclined to stop the practice because many SC's are UNNECESSARY.
Are you on a global or regular reserve fleet?
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
Are you on a global or regular reserve fleet?
Global Reserve
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by krudawg
Global Reserve
I don't see our MEC improving the reserve rules much... but do agree that that the 10 hour SC loophole is BS. Another BS rule that needs to be changed is on rolling global reserve days off... there needs to be some compensation for this. Hope that I'm wrong and the next contract is a huge improvement for RSV...
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
I don't see our MEC improving the reserve rules much... but do agree that that the 10 hour SC loophole is BS. Another BS rule that needs to be changed is on rolling global reserve days off... there needs to be some compensation for this. Hope that I'm wrong and the next contract is a huge improvement for RSV...
If it weren't for the un-predictability of Short-Call, the reserve system under this contract is pretty good and if you live in base, I'd say it's very good
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