AllenAllert

We need to go after the people responsible for forcing or allowing the crewdesk do this kinda stuff. They're the ones treating you like widgets. In all fairness the Wx has been a big problem on the east coast the last couple of days and they probably don't have a good plan for recovery if past performance is an indicator.

How would you change the contract to fix this?

SpecialTracking

Here here!!!

AllenAllert

Do you really see it as a senior vs junior thing?

UALinIAH

I really can't believe this as I type it, but I'm actually agreeing with him. I am going to screenshot this lol. Reserve can be due to a variety of reasons and sometimes may be out of one's control. But commuting is absolutely a choice. Pretty sure you can take a company paid move with your bid. And everyone off probation can take advantage of the career move. If you chose not to, that is on you. We all have choices, there are tons of options working in the industry, but we are all adults and have to weigh the pros and cons of each decision. It's completely within your rights to commute, and I did it for close to 15 years but it was always a choice. Nobody can force you to commute, and everyone off probation has a contractual right to be moved on the companies dime to your domicile.

SpecialTracking

No, I see it as a very vocal, arrogant attitude from pilots who for all intent purposes are pulling the ladder up. True unionism benefits all.

SpecialTracking

Yes, reserve can be for a variety of reasons and out of one's control. Whether that period is short in duration or longer, are you really advocating a pilot burn a career move over something that could last 3 months or three years?. We hire and furlough at the drop of a hat. With all that fluctuation, we should uproot the family?

Like it or not, someone will be the in the bottom 15%. Whether as a new hire, forced into it, or by choice, a large percentage of our group could be faced with reserve. They pay dues and should be represented.

I swear I don't recognize this pilot group anymore.

UALinIAH

I'm saying if you make the choice to commute, you live with that choice. Good and bad. That's all. Live where you want and commute, or move close to the domicile for more time at home. I empathize with the lifestyle choice of a commuter, but at the end of the day, it's 100% a choice every time you take any bid outside of the new hire bid. I judge my QOL by the number of nights my truck is in the driveway and I wake up in my own bed. That's the reason I gave up the commute and moved close to a domicile before my kids were in HS so there would be stability unless somehow they close IAH. If that were to happen I'd displace to whatever seat I could hold 50% BES as a commuter and bid up again and move to the new domicile after they graduate. But that's my personal choice based on my experiences.

baseball

No. Like me, you need to get your secret decoder ring and crack the PBS code. Evidently You need to:

1. award work high
2. set all parameters to wide
3. bid BOG Highest

baseball

I also see some craftiness going on. Sure incompetence does exist. But, I really have gotten into some deep conversations with scheduling before when arguing my position for why a trip trade should be allowed, or why I should be within the rules as I interpret them to be able to do this or that....etc. What I have encountered is some very well educated schedulers who usually take a position, put me on hold and then quote the contract. I look it up, and by-gollie sometimes I think they are right.

I may read it one way, they read it another, but they seem to be going out of their way to be knowledgeable and then use a degree of trickerey and some witchcraft and slight of hand to be able to get you to do something their way. This goes beyond incompetence, now they are using some serious brain power.

The whole "positive contact" I keep hearing about. Let me debunk that one. A scheduler called me one evening and I knew about the 10 AM rule coming off days off for scheduling purposes on long call. I answered the phone because I knew the rule and I wasn't worried about it. This clown asked me if I wold help them out with an early morning departure. I declined. He tried to use the whole positive contact thing, and then I told him, once I hang up on you, there is no more positive contact, negative contact, or any kind of contact.. ...Furthermore, if you want to use mis-use the contract by calling me when you shouldn't to get me to do something that I don't have to do then shame on you....I won't do it out of principle. Never heard a word about it.

I have heard of them leaving pilots messages. Pilot returns the call for one purpose then and scheduler tried to get the pilot to do something else based on a new set of circumstances. Same concept, and I call BS on it. scheduler can pound sand.

There is allot of incompetence. But, more often than not, schedulers are craftey and trickey.

jsled

I definitely need to get my mind right. 3 legs and 1 landing in a month is no way to go through life. Maybe for a 747 FO, but DANG, for a Guppie Captain?