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01-16-2016, 10:01 AM
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01-16-2016, 03:33 PM
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01-16-2016, 04:06 PM
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You mean the starting point 3 years from now for which we received only 13-0-2 for? The starting point 2 1/2 years behind Delta vs 6 months?
01-16-2016, 04:20 PM
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I've read numerous times your 13-0-2 argument. Can you point me in the right direction to verify this? The TA information has DOS, 2017 and 2018 pay scales. The 2017 is +3% DOS.
01-16-2016, 04:43 PM
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Well thankfully you can take the 2017 rates in the UPA and the 2018 rates in TA and do the math and see the folly in your 13-0-2 talking point. Also pattern bargaining is based on agreements not duration of negotiations. Again I have yet to see how we would be disadvantaged staring section 6 with this TA in place.
01-16-2016, 05:28 PM
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Well thankfully you can take the 2017 rates in the UPA and the 2018 rates in TA and do the math and see the folly in your 13-0-2 talking point. Also pattern bargaining is based on agreements not duration of negotiations. Again I have yet to see how we would be disadvantaged staring section 6 with this TA in place.
Contract Changes:
1. Adding the pay increases in this TA to the UPA schedule captures a
22.28% compounded increase above current 2015 rates by Jan 2018
a. UPA raise - 3% Jan 2016, plus
b. TA raise - 13% first bid period after ratification of this LOA, plus
c. UPA raise - 3% Jan 2017 (also included in TA), plus
d. TA raise , 2% Jan 2018
Are you really saying it's better to start negotiations 2.5 yrs after Delta vs .5?
01-16-2016, 06:11 PM
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Folly? Yeah, it's all about the compounding driving that yes vote.
Contract Changes:
1. Adding the pay increases in this TA to the UPA schedule captures a
22.28% compounded increase above current 2015 rates by Jan 2018
a. UPA raise - 3% Jan 2016, plus
b. TA raise - 13% first bid period after ratification of this LOA, plus
c. UPA raise - 3% Jan 2017 (also included in TA), plus
d. TA raise , 2% Jan 2018
Are you really saying it's better to start negotiations 2.5 yrs after Delta vs .5?
Contract Changes:
1. Adding the pay increases in this TA to the UPA schedule captures a
22.28% compounded increase above current 2015 rates by Jan 2018
a. UPA raise - 3% Jan 2016, plus
b. TA raise - 13% first bid period after ratification of this LOA, plus
c. UPA raise - 3% Jan 2017 (also included in TA), plus
d. TA raise , 2% Jan 2018
Are you really saying it's better to start negotiations 2.5 yrs after Delta vs .5?
01-17-2016, 01:40 AM
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Yeah some of the no guys try to make it look there is no raise in yr 2 by posting 13-0-2 because there is no additional raise above the 13% and the 3% raise already there. It's all in how you present it. IMHO should just say 13% above book rates with an additional 2% for the last year.
01-17-2016, 02:38 AM
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Yeah some of the no guys try to make it look there is no raise in yr 2 by posting 13-0-2 because there is no additional raise above the 13% and the 3% raise already there. It's all in how you present it. IMHO should just say 13% above book rates with an additional 2% for the last year.
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