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12-21-2015, 01:22 PM
#51
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......It can buy me a boat....it can buy me a truck to Pull it....it can buy me a yeti 110 iced down with some silver bullets....well I know what they say money can't buy everything.....maybe so....but it can buy me a boat!
12-21-2015, 01:45 PM
#53
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LOL that's what I thought too when I first say the %pay raise on here.
12-21-2015, 02:11 PM
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Also, timing. My guess is that the current booming economy will last plenty long enough to get a full contract done. Again, sooner than later, and here is the kicker, I think before the next 2 years. Meaning I think we could have a contract before the end of the proposed 2 year extension. My best guess would be within a year, not 4-6. That would make any QOL gains much more meaningful than 2 years of 13%, for me anyway. My opinion is that if we take the 2 year extension, then we have to negotiate a contract in 2 years. My guess is that the economy won't be as good then as it is now. I think we stand to get less when we start the full contract in 2 years than we can get now by starting the process this time around. My crystal ball doesn't go out that far, but history has demonstrated the cyclical nature of this business. Timing is very important and I think we will be much better off doing the full contract now instead of 2+ years from now.
Dave
If you want more than one article, Google.
The Global Recession of 2016 - Barron's
12-21-2015, 02:18 PM
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Most economists, Citibank, Schwab and several others have a recession beginning in 2016 at >65%.
If you want more than one article, Google.
The Global Recession of 2016 - Barron's
If you want more than one article, Google.
The Global Recession of 2016 - Barron's
12-21-2015, 03:59 PM
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Most economists, Citibank, Schwab and several others have a recession beginning in 2016 at >65%.
If you want more than one article, Google.
The Global Recession of 2016 - Barron's
If you want more than one article, Google.
The Global Recession of 2016 - Barron's
12-21-2015, 04:12 PM
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Scott
12-21-2015, 04:39 PM
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Just to be a devils advocate, what makes you fear being able to make further improvements in section six two years from now?
12-21-2015, 04:48 PM
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I think based on what I am hearing from both commodites people and those in the know in petroleum we are headed down pretty soon.
I have good friends whose business is hiring and firing in Petroleum business from the Texas coast to the Alabama coast. They are laying off about 2000 per month. In the petroleum drilling and tooling industry they aren't selling any pipe, machinery, or custom bits. This is an excellent indicator as to the future because those guys order about six months out so they can keep on track with drilling and exploration.
Just heard today that the Natural gas industry will be hit hard soon. Look for that to make news in the next few weeks.
Interesting facts....
Average American credit card debt running about 15K.
Average Household income running about 51K.
Average bank account balance is $4400.00
Average Mortage debt is 148K
Average student loan debt is 31K
26% of Americans have zero savings
36 % have nothing set aside for retirement
Oil prices will stay down. Russia won't like that at all. I do see the arab states agreeing to keep pressure on Russia with influence and price fixing going on in OPEC oil. Overall economy is soft. Very small interest rate raise on horizon. The good news: consumers and airlines can afford to buy petroleum products, fuels, and lubricants.
I have good friends whose business is hiring and firing in Petroleum business from the Texas coast to the Alabama coast. They are laying off about 2000 per month. In the petroleum drilling and tooling industry they aren't selling any pipe, machinery, or custom bits. This is an excellent indicator as to the future because those guys order about six months out so they can keep on track with drilling and exploration.
Just heard today that the Natural gas industry will be hit hard soon. Look for that to make news in the next few weeks.
Interesting facts....
Average American credit card debt running about 15K.
Average Household income running about 51K.
Average bank account balance is $4400.00
Average Mortage debt is 148K
Average student loan debt is 31K
26% of Americans have zero savings
36 % have nothing set aside for retirement
Oil prices will stay down. Russia won't like that at all. I do see the arab states agreeing to keep pressure on Russia with influence and price fixing going on in OPEC oil. Overall economy is soft. Very small interest rate raise on horizon. The good news: consumers and airlines can afford to buy petroleum products, fuels, and lubricants.
12-21-2015, 04:49 PM
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Again. We have never in my 21 years had the company come to us. We have leverage. They want. We have. Why would we sell that for 13% in an arbitraliry (and contrived) timeframe?
The answer is fear.
Scott
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