Next vacancy bid???
12-11-2015, 08:50 AM
#91
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Want to "fly" the 400?
https://youtu.be/7NjNL4Nsa4Q
For informational purposes:
Using the Staffing page, the bottom line-holders approx. active seniority # for SFO 747 in January:
Captain - #350
F/O - #4800 (#2700 for a flying F/O line)
For informational purposes:
Using the Staffing page, the bottom line-holders approx. active seniority # for SFO 747 in January:
Captain - #350
F/O - #4800 (#2700 for a flying F/O line)
12-11-2015, 09:14 AM
#92
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It shouldn't be a shock. Simple math should have shown the reality of commuting to reserve was coming. I've had to hear way too much moaning by junior guys who live in IAH but bid Sparkie West Coast at >80%
12-11-2015, 11:39 AM
#93
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The bulletin seems to say that this vacancy process will be a change to how new hires enter the fleet. Can someone explain what has changed?
"This vacancy will offer new positions on the 777, 787, 756, 737 and 320. We are using this vacancy to address our Summer 2016 needs on all fleets, as well as new hires (unfilled vacancies are required to fund new hire positions for pilots). There are no longer any fences on the 787/747 and all pilots are eligible to bid those fleets.
We are also focused on decreasing the seat imbalance, similarly to what we executed with the previous vacancy using the new hire vacancy as an opportunity to address seat imbalances as we staff to summer 2016. Any unfilled vacancy will allow new hires to enter service at that fleet and seat instead of redistributing them from historical new hire entry points. This will help maintain proper balancing and provide a more stable operation."
"This vacancy will offer new positions on the 777, 787, 756, 737 and 320. We are using this vacancy to address our Summer 2016 needs on all fleets, as well as new hires (unfilled vacancies are required to fund new hire positions for pilots). There are no longer any fences on the 787/747 and all pilots are eligible to bid those fleets.
We are also focused on decreasing the seat imbalance, similarly to what we executed with the previous vacancy using the new hire vacancy as an opportunity to address seat imbalances as we staff to summer 2016. Any unfilled vacancy will allow new hires to enter service at that fleet and seat instead of redistributing them from historical new hire entry points. This will help maintain proper balancing and provide a more stable operation."
12-11-2015, 11:56 AM
#95
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The bulletin seems to say that this vacancy process will be a change to how new hires enter the fleet. Can someone explain what has changed?
"This vacancy will offer new positions on the 777, 787, 756, 737 and 320. We are using this vacancy to address our Summer 2016 needs on all fleets, as well as new hires (unfilled vacancies are required to fund new hire positions for pilots). There are no longer any fences on the 787/747 and all pilots are eligible to bid those fleets.
We are also focused on decreasing the seat imbalance, similarly to what we executed with the previous vacancy using the new hire vacancy as an opportunity to address seat imbalances as we staff to summer 2016. Any unfilled vacancy will allow new hires to enter service at that fleet and seat instead of redistributing them from historical new hire entry points. This will help maintain proper balancing and provide a more stable operation."
"This vacancy will offer new positions on the 777, 787, 756, 737 and 320. We are using this vacancy to address our Summer 2016 needs on all fleets, as well as new hires (unfilled vacancies are required to fund new hire positions for pilots). There are no longer any fences on the 787/747 and all pilots are eligible to bid those fleets.
We are also focused on decreasing the seat imbalance, similarly to what we executed with the previous vacancy using the new hire vacancy as an opportunity to address seat imbalances as we staff to summer 2016. Any unfilled vacancy will allow new hires to enter service at that fleet and seat instead of redistributing them from historical new hire entry points. This will help maintain proper balancing and provide a more stable operation."
12-11-2015, 11:56 AM
#96
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As noted, new hires can only receive assignments that are the result of unfilled vacancies.
Thus, it would appear from the bleachers that the company is trying to "even" out the staffing so those vacancies will occur in junior seats in multiple bases instead of dumping all the new-hires in EWR and then having them all bid something else immediately.
This would appear to be a win-win-win for everybody concerned because it would mean that all ~12,500 pilots are at their first choice of base.
12-11-2015, 12:06 PM
#97
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Position: SFO Guppy CA
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The only way that new hires would be able to get wide body positions is if there are vacancies that go unfilled after a vacancy bid. They even say that in the announcements. Planning repeats that unfilled vacancies will be used to fund positions for new hire pilots.
12-11-2015, 01:58 PM
#98
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Position: 787
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My interpretation is that FOs won't just go to EWR and SFO anymore, but will have initial bids across the system (probably N/A for DEN if I were to guess). That will help ease some of the shuffle associated with new hires like me who get EWR or SFO initially and then immediately lateral somewhere else. However, I would expect that the aircraft drops won't change significantly from what has been the historical norm (737/320/occasional 756). Again, just my interpretation. I can't imagine that they'd start awarding wide bodies to new hires, thereby allowing them to leapfrog people senior to them. I'm new here, but I'm pretty sure that's a no-no.
12-11-2015, 02:12 PM
#99
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the snapshot makes you look quite wise with the last prediction.
Junior Captain is 653 on SFO 787 CA
12-11-2015, 03:34 PM
#100
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Position: 756 left
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OTH I'm surprised at how junior SFO787 FO is on the snapshot. I think it'll get more senior the closer it gets to the final though.
the snapshot makes you look quite wise with the last prediction.
Junior Captain is 653
just pulled it up..... there are serious imbalances on the 787 left seat due to the fence.... guys with seniority numbers of 2000 or more are going to have to decide if they are willing to spend the rest of their careers commuting to reserve... a number of those senior UAL guys that bid 787 left seat are 55 and younger
Junior Captain is 653
just pulled it up..... there are serious imbalances on the 787 left seat due to the fence.... guys with seniority numbers of 2000 or more are going to have to decide if they are willing to spend the rest of their careers commuting to reserve... a number of those senior UAL guys that bid 787 left seat are 55 and younger
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