More Small Narrow Body talk
11-25-2015, 05:56 AM
#71
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Frontier didn't like them, they were worth more as scrap than to actually fly. I think the economics are not there based on seat miles compared to a new NSNB.
11-25-2015, 06:03 AM
#72
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As mentioned, the operating economics of the 318 were a disaster so values plummeted to the point where is was more economical for the leasing companies to part out the fairly new airframes since nearly all the parts were usable on the huge worldwide 319/320 fleet.
FWIW, these were all in be same factors that doomed the 737-600.
11-26-2015, 08:44 AM
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11-26-2015, 02:31 PM
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I don't think we'll see any small narrow bodies on mainline any time soon. The customers hate them. The on time is substandard. I think we see more narrow bodies instead...reference the purchase of Spirit Airbuses....
11-26-2015, 03:23 PM
#76
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I do think that we'll see them. I have heard that they still might not be a part of the ratification of our extension. Who cares!!! In 3.5 years of flying the EMB-175, most pax don't realize the difference. Those jets are much roomier than a normal RJ. So the EMB-190/195 or C-Series, I do see those in our future. Probably the Embraer product though.
11-26-2015, 03:56 PM
#77
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On time is almost entirely a metric on the regional operators, the fact there is a smaller number of customers to disrupt (that's why you see weather events cancel UAX at a much higher percentage than mainline), and the fact it doesn't hurt mainline performance numbers.
I'm all for any airplane be it new or used showing up at mainline. It is a win for all of us.
11-26-2015, 05:26 PM
#78
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The C series is a much better product albiet more expensive. United is probably just waiting to see if Bombardiers financial issues will lead to bigger discounts. The E190 is much cheaper but burns the same amount of fuel as a 737-700 at cruise, carries less people, less distance. (flew them at Jetblue) I've got a feeling Republic Airway's order for 40 CS100s will be at United soon.
11-26-2015, 08:59 PM
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2016-17 UAL will get the following used aircraft
25 A319 from China
17 A319 from Spirit
17 737-700 from Copa
16000 pilots by 2018 seniority
11-27-2015, 05:56 AM
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