GPullR

It's no 757 but as the company looks at its the biggest money maker.

CLazarus

That's a shame. A jet with that kind of range/capacity could open up all kinds of viable new nonstop city pairs such as CHS or JAX to SFO, or RNO to EWR. Or, it gives better one stop options to our prime international destinations (say JAX to SYD via SFO). Kind of like how the 787 is opening up new city pairs. Minimizing connections at hubs is a great way to improve on time rates and overall satisfaction.

I certainly don't claim any inside information, but Bombardier has changed its tune on pricing the CSeries within the last 6-9 months: Bombardier sees ?aggressive? CSeries pricing amid order drought | Toronto Star I think they need a big sale badly enough to do what it takes to win one from us. I don't think Embraer or AB/Boeing need the sale that bad. Nice article in Aviation Week this week on the C Series, if Bombardier is to be believed the CSeries is easily exceeding its performance targets.

Old UCAL CA

No one said it is a "757" (much longer range, payload). However, it is replacing what a 757 did domestically (well under 757 range and payload).

Clearly, the metric works. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.

Grumble

Except for those days where every west bound super guppy, going to DEN has to buy off 20 pax because of forcast icing. In May (personal experience).

oldmako

Well, it sorta works as a replacement. They can buy them, schedule them, put them on gates and sell tickets. They can then offer less room to the paying passengers. They can then bump pax and limit their bags. They can stop for gas, they can run the APU all the way to Hawaii and they can leave non revs behind. They can't take a full load to DEN in icing, can't carry a full load (east) out of Orange County, etc. etc.

Hell of a metric! "Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it" is a rather flimsy measure of success isn't it? After all, this is the same gang that brought us Shares, (including a whole slew of other IT failures - including nearly downing the entire fleet multiple times when Sabre/Dispatch functions crapped out), massively dorked up vacancy awards, put hundreds of guys in some based (doing nothing) while they cancel flights in others, etc etc etc.

Ford used to make an Edsel too.

Let's face it, the plane should have died a natural death 20 years ago. If not for SWA, Airbus would have crushed Boeing in narrow body sales. There's a reason that virtually all the US startups (JetBlue, Frontier, Spirit, Virgin) and dozens of other airlines worldwide have switched to the bus. (Insert chainsaw retort here)

Its the same fuselage cross section as the original 707. Look at the overhead and its 1967, look at the panel and its a triple. Look at the jump seat and its romper room.

jsled

Any NSNB ordered today...if at all, won't be on property before 2019...at least that's the opinion of our Neg Comm Chairman (from the webinar). Heck the E195-E2 isn't even due out until 2019. So $194.57 effective Jan '18 is the TA rate. Not $180. I pity the fool who has to suck up that rate! "pennies" indeed! Go find me a better rate for a 100 seater anywhere.

737-700 Mtow 154.5 Range 4400
A319 Mtow 141.0 Range 3700

E195-E2 Mtow 129.4 Range 2000

http://www.embraercommercialaviation...ts-195-E2.aspx

socalflyboy

Ftr, I'm not trying to sway your yes vote...its most likely gonna pass with my no vote...however, riddle me this?
The T.A. Is announced from momma U..in the same breath there is talk of a snb ac on property,flown by momma U av8rs..then, the T.A. Gets approval for vote, there is no more talk of such ac order..there is an * next to two ac types...so why not announce what the ac will be prior to the vote? also, e190E2 range 2800/cs100 range is 3100nm. Both of these will fly the guppy routes,minus island stuff, for less coin than a guppy pilot. Like I said, it's like skywest again..meaning a crew on the crj 700 is basically doing the same job as we are,for much much less coin..you,jsled of all should know that momma U does
NOT have you or your family's best interest in mind. Oil is cheap, loads are maxed and the boys at the top are R O L L I N G in straight up cash.
I stopped reading the T.A. when I saw the pay scale rates, AND when I saw that ALPA ignored my/our request to have my travel board date adjusted to my hire date, that's right, more than 2 years difference from hire date to new date due to a b.s. furlough...this my man is a ZERO cost item to fix and keep everyone equal...

Regularguy

A very good friend of mine who flies UAL hates the RJ airplanes and, after a long conversation, I don't get it. I think the underlying issue is he and the other business people think the small jets are somehow below them, a step down in status.

Personally in order of comfort I find an aft seat in the super guppy(-900) is one of the worst experiences in commercial aviation. The next in line are the Spirit/Frontier non reclining plastic seats. I would rather fly in a full two and one RJ over these any day. Now consider a middle seat in a full wide body on a 15 hour flight, the destination better be worth it.

That being said a 757 aft seat in a full airplane is no picnic either.

The real motto is, "if you want cheap seats then there's a price to pay. "

Now what do I think of the guppy jump seat? Better than buying a seat when commuting.

bigfatdaddy

Well said!........!!

SVA402

What's up with this? My airline flies super stretch guppies and I've never heard of such a thing.