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Old 11-03-2015, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
You and I don't often agree, but this is an excellent point.
I think we agree more than you may realize.
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Old 11-03-2015, 12:44 PM
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Having been intimately involved in the genesis of FOQA and similar FOQA programs I can tell you that this is basically crapping on your union. Every bit of this FOQA program was negotiated and paid for with our union dues money. So, if your union is out there representing you and your profession and simultaneously protecting the crews legal actions, be they intentional or unintentional we need a FOQA program to do this. If these kinds of actions occur then FOQA will be torn up and replaced with an FAA NPRM on live-flight-cockpit full video and audio surveillance with realtime data down-links to ground and satellite stations. You won't be able to sneeze or dribble yogurt down your face without it being on some "hacked" government dark website or some techno-geeks ten trillion terabyte basement server.

When an accident happens, the plaintiffs lawyers will get their full audio and video downlink in about 10 minutes. Your family is going to love having the news crew in your front yard. No more jokes in the cockpit. No more farts.....there will be too much evidence "floating around." Make sure you shave real close and button up that tie....big brother, and his big brother will be watching.
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Old 11-03-2015, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by baseball
Having been intimately involved in the genesis of FOQA and similar FOQA programs I can tell you that this is basically crapping on your union. Every bit of this FOQA program was negotiated and paid for with our union dues money. So, if your union is out there representing you and your profession and simultaneously protecting the crews legal actions, be they intentional or unintentional we need a FOQA program to do this. If these kinds of actions occur then FOQA will be torn up and replaced with an FAA NPRM on live-flight-cockpit full video and audio surveillance with realtime data down-links to ground and satellite stations. You won't be able to sneeze or dribble yogurt down your face without it being on some "hacked" government dark website or some techno-geeks ten trillion terabyte basement server.

When an accident happens, the plaintiffs lawyers will get their full audio and video downlink in about 10 minutes. Your family is going to love having the news crew in your front yard. No more jokes in the cockpit. No more farts.....there will be too much evidence "floating around." Make sure you shave real close and button up that tie....big brother, and his big brother will be watching.
If I may tag along to your excellent FOQA points. Since he knowingly violated FOM and FAR's, no FSAP in the world is going to help. It's like the kids that post their bong game night on Facebook and then wonder why they can't get a job
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Old 11-03-2015, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
Not my fault you don't do enough research to know what you're talking about. Ironically then calling out the very people who have taken the time to learn the background behind the video. You could have answered all your own rhetorical questions with a modicum of research.... which you chose not to do. But then arrogantly declare yourself some sort of Matlock with your hypotheticals, all of which were easily disbursed of.

You said you were speaking up for those that couldn't speak for themselves. Who, pray tell, would that be? Everyone on this board can speak for themselves just fine.

You really do need a good healthy dose of "get over yourself". I wasn't kidding about United. I saw you had an app in at the Big 3. I'm being dead serious when I say this; you really should exercise a little humility if you hope to land a job and realize that you DON'T know everything. Having been a check airman here I've learned that the fastest way off the property is to come in with a large slice of attitude. You can take that advice or leave it, matters not to me.
I didn't do "research" because I was asking the person who was making accusations if he had... THAT WAS THE POINT.

What? I never declared myself Matlock. The only person who can't stand up for them-self in this situation is the pilot in question, not the participants of this thread. Could you not comprehend that?

Read all my posts in the thread again. Show me arrogance. Show me a lack of humility. Show me why I need to "get over myself". I haven't once trumped myself up. You've even pointed out I was self-depriciating. Where did I imply I know everything BY ASKING QUESTIONS?

Again, I simply want to know why the OP has taken it upon them-self to police YouTube of pilot videos and why or if they have done any further research into it before posting it on here. There is NOTHING wrong with that and you should appreciate that I do it. I'm standing up for pilots rights. I'm not standing up for actions that may have been against FOM/FARs

I know you weren't kidding about United. Pilots like you are the number reason I would not like to work there. As far as I can tell from what I've read on this forum you have no reading comprehension. Your attitude displayed here is a detriment to the United pilot group. A group of whom many are my friends.

I have not once defended any actions against the FOM or FARs. I do not sanction the use of videos in the cockpit. I only want questions answered before we go on a hate-parade against a pilot.

Good day.

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Old 11-03-2015, 01:05 PM
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Whoa, guys. Cease and desist. Portishead rocks.
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
I didn't do "research" because I was asking the person who was making accusations if he had... THAT WAS THE POINT.

What? I never declared myself Matlock. The only person who can't stand up for them-self in this situation is the pilot in question, not the participants of this thread. Could you not comprehend that?

Read all my posts in the thread again. Show me arrogance. Show me a lack of humility. Show me why I need to "get over myself". I haven't once trumped myself up. You've even pointed out I was self-depriciating. Where did I imply I know everything BY ASKING QUESTIONS?

Again, I simply want to know why the OP has taken it upon them-self to police YouTube of pilot videos and why or if they have done any further research into it before posting it on here. There is NOTHING wrong with that and you should appreciate that I do it. I'm standing up for pilots rights. I'm not standing up for actions that may have been against FOM/FARs

I know you weren't kidding about United. Pilots like you are the number reason I would not like to work there. As far as I can tell from what I've read on this forum you are an idiot and the worst type of check airman imaginable. You have zero comprehension skills, take things to the extreme, and make assumptions. Your attitude displayed here is a detriment to the United pilot group. A group of whom many are my friends.

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Time to go pal......your hole is to deep to get out of at this point.

The fact that you think Gettinbumped is an idiot proves your grasping at straws. He's one of the good ones, and all though I don't know who he is, I respect him, on this forum and most likely on the UALpilotsforum aswell.
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:18 PM
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Video was sent to me by a person who saw it on YouTube. The sender knew it was against the rules to record video in the cockpit. I tried to flag it on YouTube, and posted here hoping someone might know this guy who could pull it. Video speaks for itself. No research or excuses needed.
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
Time to go pal......your hole is to deep to get out of at this point.

The fact that you think Gettinbumped is an idiot proves your grasping at straws. He's one of the good ones, and all though I don't know who he is, I respect him, on this forum and most likely on the UALpilotsforum aswell.
Fine. But what hole did I create by only asking questions? By ensuring people aren't slandered? By simply asking that people not throw stones before looking further?
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Fine. But what hole did I create by only asking questions? By ensuring people aren't slandered? By simply asking that people not throw stones before looking further?
Show some dignity man seriously. Have you ever heard the old saying "If everyone in the room is an *******, then you are most likely the *******"

You came on here and threw an entire handful of stones without looking any further.
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Did you guys get kicked off of the UALpilotsforum? You guys are seriously steeped in the tail-chasing culture of arguing minutiae at the expense of the big picture that makes that forum such a drag.

Take another toke, bong hit, or whatever it is you guys do in the Canabis Culture at UALpilotsforum to relax.
And now we have brought you into the tail-chasing culture of arguing minutiae at the expense of the big picture that makes that forum such a drag.

Take another toke, bong hit or whatever it is YOU do in the canabis culture to relax
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